Terrell Pryor and Others Disciplined by NCAA

[Crush]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5950873


Five Ohio State players sanctioned

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Five Ohio State football players, including quarterback Terrell Pryor, must sit out the first five games of the 2011 season for accepting improper benefits, the NCAA ruled Thursday.

A sixth football student-athlete must sit out the first game in 2011 for receiving discounted services in violation of NCAA rules.

All of the players be eligible for the Jan. 4 Sugar Bowl, however.

Five players were found to have sold awards, gifts and university apparel, plus receiving improper benefits in 2009. In addition to missing five games next season, Pryor, Mike Adams, Daniel Herron, Devier Posey and Solomon Thomas must repay money and benefits ranging in value from $1,000 to $2,500. The repayments must be made to a charity.

Jordan Whiting must sit out the first game next year and pay $150 to a charity for the value of services that were discounted because of his status as a student-athlete.

The NCAA announced the suspensions on Thursday, shortly before Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith and coach Jim Tressel were to meet with reporters to discuss the university's investigation of players trading autographs for tattoos.

Adams must repay $1,000 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring and Herron must repay $1,150 for selling his football jersey, pants and shoes for $1,000 and receiving discounted services worth $150.

Posey must repay $1,250 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring for $1,200 and receiving discounted services worth $50, while Pryor must repay $2,500 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring, a 2009 Fiesta Bowl sportsmanship award and his 2008 Gold Pants, a gift from the university.

Solomon must repay $1,505 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring for $1,000, his 2008 Gold Pants for $350 and receiving discounted services worth $155.

"These are significant penalties based on findings and information provided by the university," Kevin Lennon, NCAA vice president of academic and membership affairs, said in a statement released by the NCAA.

The players are eligibile for the bowl game because the NCAA determined they did not receive adequate rules education during the time period the violations occurred, Lennon said.

"We were not as explicit with our student-athlete education as we should have been in the 2007-08 and 2008-09 academic years regarding the sale of apparel, awards and gifts issued by the athletics department," Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith said in a statement. "We began to significantly improve our education in November of 2009 to address these issues. After going through this experience, we will further enhance our education for all our student-athletes as we move forward."

Information from The Associated Press is included in this report.

[jettio]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I've said pretty clearly that I'm an Ohio State fan. I'm not going to defend idiots. Accepting gifts from the school where there is some ambiguity of the rules is one thing. I don't have a huge problem with that because the rule is so inconsistently enforced. I have a huge problem with jeopardizing your career and the team because of something they clearly, clearly knew was wrong, regardless of what Gene Smith says.

It was stupid. It was wrong. They should be punished and quite frankly shouldn't be allowed to play in the bowl game.

I do not know why this Gene Smith guy wants to buy their story that these players "did it for their families."

What proof does he have that these players sent any cash home to their parents, and what kind of parents would accept the money without asking questions?

It is pretty clear that these guys being eligble to declare for the draft led to this cynical decision to let them play in the Sugar Bowl but then give them 5 games for the next year.

The players were wrong, but 5 games is excessive, but OSU and the NCAA are obviously about making that money.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by jettio

I do not know why this Gene Smith guy wants to buy their story that these players "did it for their families."
What proof does he have that these players sent any cash home to their parents, and what kind of parents would accept the money without asking questions?

It is pretty clear that these guys being eligble to declare for the draft led to this cynical decision to let them play in the Sugar Bowl but then give them 5 games for the next year.

The players were wrong, but 5 games is excessive, but OSU and the NCAA are obviously about making that money.

Good post man I really don't think the 5 game suspension had much to do with them being elgible for the draft, I think the Bowl money had more precedence in this case. Because Boom Herron is a 3rd round pick tops, Posey is a 3-4th rounder and Pryor isn't even on a draft radar. I agree with 5 games being excessive though. Oh well, they made their beds, now its time for them to lay in them.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoJC

Well I can't help it, even this post makes it hard for me to believe you are a Buckeye fan. You think the team that got beat by Florida was better? Umm it wasn't even a thought in any Buckeye fans mind, that was one of the most talented Buckeye Teams ever.

The reason it's hard for me to believe you are a fan is because most of your posts are illogical and pretty dumb. It's like you are trying to guess about stuff that you don't know, hence my doubt of your following. I didn't say you have to drink any kool-aid to be a fan, but if you're going to start posting some dumb stuff about my favorite team and you really don't know what you're talking about I will call you on it.

There is a difference between Ohiobronco and I having a dispute, because he knows his stuff about the Buckeyes. Most of your posts just aren't smart, my last point, our schedule wasn't that patsy, we beat a ranked Purdue, Penn State, and a good Michigan team that year, but I digress.

I don't follow the Buckeyes as much as I follow the Chiefs. But anybody outside of you two will confirm everything I'm saying. You're just looking at everything with rose-colored glasses. The Big 10 was pattycake for years but was very competitive last season, where they dominated their bowl games. This is a defense that is going to lose a ton of talent in the secondary and that is going to lose Cameron Heyward, which is huge, given how much attention offenses are devoting to him. And Pryor has been inconsistent in big games.

I think the Bucks next season with Pryor for a full season would have been a longshot for the BCS championship game with a decent chance of making a BCS Bowl with the greater likelihood that they'd be a 2-3 loss team. I'm sorry if realism is seen by you as hating, but I can guarantee you that 99% of the people who don't drink the kool-aid will say the same thing and I assure you that they are not stupid observations.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't follow the Buckeyes as much as I follow the Chiefs. But anybody outside of you two will confirm everything I'm saying. You're just looking at everything with rose-colored glasses. The Big 10 was pattycake for years but was very competitive last season, where they dominated their bowl games. This is a defense that is going to lose a ton of talent in the secondary and that is going to lose Cameron Heyward, which is huge, given how much attention offenses are devoting to him. And Pryor has been inconsistent in big games. I think the Bucks next season with Pryor for a full season would have been a longshot for the BCS championship game with a decent chance of making a BCS Bowl with the greater likelihood that they'd be a 2-3 loss team. I'm sorry if realism is seen by you as hating, but I can guarantee you that 99% of the people who don't drink the kool-aid will say the same thing and I assure you that they are not stupid observations.

Ok man, this is my last rebuttle regarding this issue for the sake of being redudant. I find it funny that you keep bringing up points that I have already brought up in this thread. I talked about how being without those 5 and with those who we lose on defense will take us out of NC hopes. That being said if we had those 5 for the full season we would definitely be in NC contention. You obviously haven't watched the Buckeyes much, because this team is loaded with young talent, especially in the LB corp and even the secondary on defense, I know I may contradict an early discussion I had with Ohiobronco, but I tend to agree with him that the talent in the wings for defense is great. So with almost all our skill positions back on offense, we would definitely make a run. I think it's funny how you keep saying that I am drinking Kool-aid because I don't agree with your half-whitted statements. If you are a fan, you are a fair weather fan for sure. Most people around here know I love the Buckeyes, but my passion doesn't let me see a cup half full when it's really half empty.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoJC

Ok man, this is my last rebuttle regarding this issue for the sake of being redudant. I find it funny that you keep bringing up points that I have already brought up in this thread. I talked about how being without those 5 and with those who we lose on defense will take us out of NC hopes. That being said if we had those 5 for the full season we would definitely be in NC contention. You obviously haven't watched the Buckeyes much, because this team is loaded with young talent, especially in the LB corp and even the secondary on defense, I know I may contradict an early discussion I had with Ohiobronco, but I tend to agree with him that the talent in the wings for defense is great. So with almost all our skill positions back on offense, we would definitely make a run. I think it's funny how you keep saying that I am drinking Kool-aid because I don't agree with your half-whitted statements. If you are a fan, you are a fair weather fan for sure. Most people around here know I love the Buckeyes, but my passion doesn't let me see a cup half full when it's really half empty.

What we see eye-to-eye on, I'm sure, is that the future is bright. With Jordan Hall, Braxton Miller, and young up and coming talent on defense, I think this team is really well set for a future run. I like the chances with that team a hell of a lot more than I like them with today's team with Pryor. I just see a lot more potential in Miller--Tressel's going to make him a pocket passer and I believe he's a lot more suited for that than Pryor.

I'm not trying to rip on this team. Every year, Tressel is going to build a 2-3 loss team at its worst, which is admirable. I just think that with the rebuilding next year and Pryor's inconsistency, they're going to be a contender next year, but not one that can finish the deal. I think this team is better primed for a run with Braxton and I'd love to see him get his reps sooner than later. That's one of the reasons I hope they can get Braxton Miller ready to play as soon as next year instead of redshirting him. Would love to see him get some snaps under his belt so that when Hall becomes a senior, Miller won't be raw. I just think the better opportunity for the Buckeyes to win is not this coming year with Pryor, but in the future when Miller's good to go. I think the kid is going to be an absolute stud.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

What we see eye-to-eye on, I'm sure, is that the future is bright. With Jordan Hall, Braxton Miller, and young up and coming talent on defense, I think this team is really well set for a future run. I like the chances with that team a hell of a lot more than I like them with today's team with Pryor. I just see a lot more potential in Miller--Tressel's going to make him a pocket passer and I believe he's a lot more suited for that than Pryor.

I'm not trying to rip on this team. Every year, Tressel is going to build a 2-3 loss team at its worst, which is admirable. I just think that with the rebuilding next year and Pryor's inconsistency, they're going to be a contender next year, but not one that can finish the deal. I think this team is better primed for a run with Braxton and I'd love to see him get his reps sooner than later. That's one of the reasons I hope they can get Braxton Miller ready to play as soon as next year instead of redshirting him. Would love to see him get some snaps under his belt so that when Hall becomes a senior, Miller won't be raw. I just think the better opportunity for the Buckeyes to win is not this coming year with Pryor, but in the future when Miller's good to go. I think the kid is going to be an absolute stud.

Well said, I can respect that. Braxton Miller looks to be our future, very talented kid. This team is loaded, the future looks good for Buckeye fans.

Oh just as a Merry Christmas note, Braxton Miller chose us over Dakcman's little Gators, Merry Christmas to all LOL!

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoJC

Well said, I can respect that. Braxton Miller looks to be our future, very talented kid. This team is loaded, the future looks good for Buckeye fans.

Oh just as a Merry Christmas note, Braxton Miller chose us over Dakcman's little Gators, Merry Christmas to all LOL!

Ok, sweet. Then we're on the same page, even if we disagree just a little bit. F the Gators.

[DaKCMan AP]

Report: Tressel was alerted to gear sale in April

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Yahoo! Sports is reporting Ohio State football coach Jim Tressel was informed that some of his players had sold memorabilia to the owner of a tattoo parlor more than eight months before the school said it was made aware of improper transactions.

The website, citing an unidentified source, reports Tressel received information as early as April 2010 that players were selling items to Edward Rife, who owns Fine Line Ink Tattoos in Columbus
Ohio State officials did not immediately respond to a requests for comment by the AP.

Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith has said the local U.S. Attorney's office on Dec. 7 alerted the school that some of its players were selling items such as jerseys and championship rings to Rife.

Soon after, the school opened an investigation and informed the NCAA of the possible rules violations.

On Dec. 23, quarterback Terrelle Pryor was among five players suspended by the NCAA for the first five games of the 2011 season. All the players were allowed to play in Ohio State's 31-26 victory against Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl.

If it is proven that Tressel knew about the possible NCAA violations and did not inform Smith or the compliance office, the coach and the program could face more sanctions.

Tailback Dan "Boom" Herron, wide receiver DeVier Posey and left tackle Mike Adams, along with Sugar Bowl star Solomon Thomas, a backup defensive end who had the game-clinching interception were also suspended.

Each player was also made to repay to charity the value of what he gained by swapping their memorabilia for cash and tattoos.

Ohio State is appealing to the NCAA to get the suspensions reduced, although the NCAA's decision to allow the players to participate in the Sugar Bowl drew a wide range of criticism and questions.


Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/03/0...#ixzz1G1vIkUJv

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Report: Tressel was alerted to gear sale in April

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Yahoo! Sports is reporting Ohio State football coach Jim Tressel was informed that some of his players had sold memorabilia to the owner of a tattoo parlor more than eight months before the school said it was made aware of improper transactions.

The website, citing an unidentified source, reports Tressel received information as early as April 2010 that players were selling items to Edward Rife, who owns Fine Line Ink Tattoos in Columbus
Ohio State officials did not immediately respond to a requests for comment by the AP.

Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith has said the local U.S. Attorney's office on Dec. 7 alerted the school that some of its players were selling items such as jerseys and championship rings to Rife.

Soon after, the school opened an investigation and informed the NCAA of the possible rules violations.

On Dec. 23, quarterback Terrelle Pryor was among five players suspended by the NCAA for the first five games of the 2011 season. All the players were allowed to play in Ohio State's 31-26 victory against Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl.

If it is proven that Tressel knew about the possible NCAA violations and did not inform Smith or the compliance office, the coach and the program could face more sanctions.

Tailback Dan "Boom" Herron, wide receiver DeVier Posey and left tackle Mike Adams, along with Sugar Bowl star Solomon Thomas, a backup defensive end who had the game-clinching interception were also suspended.

Each player was also made to repay to charity the value of what he gained by swapping their memorabilia for cash and tattoos.

Ohio State is appealing to the NCAA to get the suspensions reduced, although the NCAA's decision to allow the players to participate in the Sugar Bowl drew a wide range of criticism and questions.


Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/03/0...#ixzz1G1vIkUJv

I heard this on a local sports radio show, I will wait to make any judgements on Tress, but if it's true, tisk tisk Tress, I am dissapoint.

[blaise]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoJC

I heard this on a local sports radio show, I will wait to make any judgements on Tress, but if it's true, tisk tisk Tress, I am dissapoint.

I heard the yahoo reporter this morning on a Houston radio show. He sounded pretty certain of his source. They asked him like three times how sure he was about the info, and he was like, (paraphrased) "I'm sure. We double checked, we triple checked. This is solid, we took our time on this." Either he's a great bullshitter, or he's really really confident he can back all this up.

[kepp]

So what could this mean, if true? More sanctions/punishment for tOSU?

[kstater]

Originally Posted by kepp

So what could this mean, if true? More sanctions/punishment for tOSU?

Major infractions. Since they're a known school, probably loss of 2 scholarships. Probation.

[BigMeatballDave]

Hopefully, this leads to Tressel resigning or getting canned.

[Trevo_410]

Originally Posted by BCD

Hopefully, this leads to Tressel resigning or getting canned.

Anything that could lessen the competition for recruiting Dorial Green BEckham next year is fine by me!