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Old 12-17-2013, 01:40 AM  
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Who is the greatest rapper of all time..
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:25 PM   #166
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It's kind of an unsatisfying discussion when it comes up, in my opinion. A lot of people end up saying Jay Z because of his body of work even though he never seems to be anyone's favorite MC in terms of mic skills.
Then you have guys like KRS One and Rakim whose body of work isn't as big as JayZ's but when they're at their best they're better than he is.
Same thing with PMD. His best is better than Jay Z in my opinion, but a pretty small body of good work.
I think Biggie is my favorite just in terms of mic skills. I don't think he's lyrically as strong as some others though.
My favorite rap act would probably be Tribe based on Low End Theory and Midnight Marauders. And of the two emcees I always preferred Phife.
My favorite album would probably be Paul's Boutique. There's hundreds of cool samples, clever lines and great songs. I once read Rakim say that he could make 5 albums from Paul's Boutique samples. You couldn't even make that album anymore with all the stuff they used, via the Dust Brothers.
one of the greatest albums of all-time, regardless of genre.

Paul's Boutique is so great, it transcends being called 'rap' or 'hip-hop'; lumping it in with all that actually sells the album short.

Paul's Boutique belongs in the conversations where people drop names like Sgt. Pepper, Physical Graffiti, and The Wall...it belongs in the discussions regarding the greatest recorded works in history.
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Old 12-19-2013, 10:33 PM   #167
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This is like asking "what's the best beverage?"

Too many options, potential criteria, and differences in taste.
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Old 12-19-2013, 10:42 PM   #168
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I fully admit that I know jack shit about rap, especially over the last 15+ years. Personally, I thought the most culturally important were Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, N.W.A., and Public Enemy.

It's been a long time since popular rap music had any kind of social conscience.
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Old 12-19-2013, 10:46 PM   #169
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Out of the big three from N.W.A I'd probably say:

1. Ice Cube
2. Dr. Dre
3. Eazy-E
FWIW, my favorite verse in "Straight Outta Compton" was MC Ren's. I loved Ren for some reason.

When I wrote for the school newspaper in high school we did our own desktop publishing. Each section of the paper had its own computer. I Hamasified mine as you might expect--I used a colostomy bag as a floppy disk holder (attached to the side of the tower), my desktop wallpaper was a photo of The Rock from his Nation of Domination days, and the three computer bots that I played Hearts against during slow days were Ice Cube, Eazy-E, and MC Ren.

One day this kid walks by and asks me, "Who is Mick Ren?"

It was almost as violent as the Battle of the Kool Moe Dee Concert.
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Old 12-19-2013, 11:27 PM   #170
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Old 12-20-2013, 12:11 AM   #171
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Old 12-20-2013, 12:28 AM   #172
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Lyrically and talent wise, lil Wayne has to be up there.
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everyone ALWAYS undersells MC goddamned Ren
I liked his schtick of reversing the line. Like he would go, "I'll make you shake in your boots and in your boots you'll be shakin'
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Old 12-20-2013, 08:43 AM   #174
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that's true, but the thread title IS 'who is the greatest crapper out there', so...
And I stand by my statement, none of the above. Who is the greatest yodler of all time? I'm sure there's a greatest out there but I don't care who it is, still won't listen.
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Old 12-20-2013, 08:51 AM   #175
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And I stand by my statement, none of the above. Who is the greatest yodler of all time? I'm sure there's a greatest out there but I don't care who it is, still won't listen.
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I'd say Nas if I HAD to answer, but I'd rather pass on the question all together.

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I fully admit that I know jack shit about rap, especially over the last 15+ years. Personally, I thought the most culturally important were Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, N.W.A., and Public Enemy.

It's been a long time since popular rap music had any kind of social conscience.
One of my favorite songs with a conscience that's come out lately. It's set up in two parts, so you have to listen to the whole thing to get what he's doing (at first, seems to just be typical drug dealing bullshit). The long pause at about 2:30 is intentional and signals transition to second part.

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Old 12-20-2013, 10:29 AM   #178
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Rappers I listen to;

Tech N9ne (and the rest of Strange Music)
Kid Cudi
Kendrick Lamar

The end.

I don't know nearly enough about rap to proclaim somebody the best.
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Old 12-20-2013, 11:51 AM   #179
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Best groups were NWA and the Geto Boys.
Eric B. And Rakim were unbetable for a couple of years.
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