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Old 07-12-2015, 07:01 PM  
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Holy S#%^}*+ Chapo Guzman escaped

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Old 07-13-2015, 12:07 AM   #16
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Old 07-13-2015, 12:23 AM   #17
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If North America would just legalize everything, guys like this will go away.
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Old 07-13-2015, 12:52 AM   #18
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If North America would just legalize everything, guys like this will go away.
They could hand out pamphlets on Bart
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Old 07-13-2015, 02:21 AM   #19
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“Anyone who makes a mile-long tunnel from his cell and escapes on a motorcycle is necessarily in collusion with the government.” Who in the government? How many were they? How senior? “Everyone is under suspicion.”

In April, it emerged that Guzmán’s lawyers had employed a ruse involving a phony birth certificate to sneak a woman into Altiplano for an unauthorized visit. In June, it was reported that the young woman who visited Guzmán happens to be a politician with Mexico’s National Action Party.
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Vicente Zambada-Niebla is the son of Ismael Zambada Garcia (alias, “El Mayo”), second in command of the Sinaloa drug-trafficking organization. In 2009, Vicente Zambada was arrested by Mexican authorities and promptly extradited to Chicago.

But then the case took a turn: Zambada’s lawyers declared that he could not be prosecuted by the United States, because, they claimed, he had been secretly working as an informant for the Drug Enforcement Administration, even as he smuggled tons of cocaine across the border. In fact, according to his counsel, Zambada had been assured by his contacts at the D.E.A. that, in exchange for providing them with intelligence about the drug trade in Mexico, he would be guaranteed immunity against prosecution for his own role in the business.
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El Universal released a report, drawing on court documents, which claimed that the D.E.A. had knowingly allowed Zambada to smuggle “billions of dollars” of narcotics into the U.S. The newspaper contended that the conspiracy ran even deeper, alleging that the governments of both the United States and Mexico had, in effect, played favorites among the rival trafficking organizations, secretly colluding with the Sinaloa cartel in order to wipe out its rivals.

In a secret plea agreement, which was unsealed on Thursday, Zambada confesses that he was a senior figure in the Sinaloa cartel and a “surrogate and logistical coordinator” for his father. He admits to having smuggled “multiple tons” of cocaine, using “private aircraft, submarines and other submersible and semi-submersible vessels, container ships, go-fast boats, fishing vessels, buses, rail cars, tractor-trailers, and automobiles.”

The deal establishes that Zambada will spend at least ten years in prison, with the possibility of a life sentence. But the most intriguing number in the case involves the value of the property and assets that Zambada has agreed to forfeit to the government. According to the plea agreement, however, the younger Zambada must surrender assets amounting to $1.37 billion—and Zambada did not contest the number.

If Zambada pled guilty more than a year ago, why are we only finding out about it now? The authorities kept Zambada’s deal under wraps, even as rumors flourished about secret arrangements between the cartel and the D.E.A.
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Was Operation Fast And Furious Really Part Of A Secret Deal Between The DEA And Mexico's Sinaloa Drug Cartel?
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Mexican President Enrique Nieto "arrived in Paris on Sunday for a state visit, accompanied by more than 400 officials and business leaders. Many Mexicans also wondered aloud about how many officials Mr. Guzman must have bought off to ensure an escape."
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Old 07-13-2015, 07:27 AM   #20
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Meh if we really wanted the guy I'm sure we could get a little Intel and pay him a visit with a drone.



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Old 07-13-2015, 07:53 AM   #21
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Maybe it's time to demote Mexico south and bring up one of the other countries down there. Maybe move Belize or Costa Rica up north and give them a shot.
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Old 07-13-2015, 08:19 AM   #22
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Meh if we really wanted the guy I'm sure we could get a little Intel and pay him a visit with a drone.



Yo Chapo, heads up!
The US government doesn't want him dead.

They don't really want him in jail. An offshoot of the Sinaloa cartel has popped up while he's been in jail and they're making a name for themselves. I bet now that he's out, they get in line pretty quickly.
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Old 07-13-2015, 12:00 PM   #23
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El Chapo wants a piece of Donald Trump. He immediately threatens that loudmouth on his twitter account after his escape. I bet the Donald promptly filled his silk boxers.

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Old 07-13-2015, 12:03 PM   #24
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Old 07-13-2015, 12:05 PM   #25
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Also, Chapo is barely literate. I don't think the twitter account is real.
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Old 07-13-2015, 01:36 PM   #26
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Old 07-13-2015, 01:40 PM   #27
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Old 07-13-2015, 04:54 PM   #28
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Also, Chapo is barely literate. I don't think the twitter account is real.
Well , he was obviously able to read the message about "don't pee down the shower drain, we're digging down here."
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Old 07-14-2015, 11:54 PM   #29
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If North America would just legalize everything, guys like this will go away.
But then the big banks like HSBC, Wachovia, Wells Fargo, etc. which have been caught laundering cartel drug money would be cut out of the loop, and it's far too lucrative for them to ever allow that.

When Wachovia was found guilty of laundering cartel drug money in 2010, it cost them $170 million in fines and forfeitures. It was--at the time--a record fine which was trumpeted as justice served on all the national network news outlets. But they laundered $378 BILLION. Even if they were only getting 1 point on the money, Wachovia netted over $3.5 Billion. Pretty meaningless "record fine".

Of course, if rumor is reality, they were getting 10 pts for laundering that cartel cash, which means they netted over 37-and-a-half BILLION DOLLARS. After all, like the scene from Scarface, the banks are only game in town, where else could they possibly take all that cash?

This El Chapo cat is a walking ATM machine for the biggest banks in the world. That has as much or more to do with him "escaping" than anything else.
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Old 07-14-2015, 11:57 PM   #30
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But then the big banks like HSBC, Wachovia, Wells Fargo, etc. which have been caught laundering cartel drug money would be cut out of the loop, and it's far too lucrative for them to ever allow that.

When Wachovia was found guilty of laundering cartel drug money in 2010, it cost them $170 million in fines and forfeitures. It was--at the time--a record fine which was trumpeted as justice served on all the national network news outlets. But they laundered $378 BILLION. Even if they were only getting 1 point on the money, Wachovia netted over $3.5 Billion. Pretty meaningless "record fine".

Of course, if rumor is reality, they were getting 10 pts for laundering that cartel cash, which means they netted over 37-and-a-half BILLION DOLLARS. After all, like the scene from Scarface, the banks are only game in town, where else could they possibly take all that cash?

This El Chapo cat is a walking ATM machine for the biggest banks in the world. That has as much or more to do with him "escaping" than anything else.
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