Football Tarell Brown fired his agent for a really good reason. - Page 3

RINGLEADER · 07-27-2013, 02:09 AM

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vailpass · 07-26-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native

I hope his agent has a good E&O policy because he is going to be sued.

This. He sure as hell ought to be sued.

**Rain Man** · 07-26-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

This. He sure as hell ought to be sued.

That was my initial reaction, but now I wonder if the contracts that agents sign with players includes some sort of "you are ultimately responsible" clause. If not, I'll bet they will now.

Not that it matters for that agent. I suspect that he'll never get work again.

vailpass · 07-26-2013, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

That was my initial reaction, but now I wonder if the contracts that agents sign with players includes some sort of "you are ultimately responsible" clause. If not, I'll bet they will now.

Not that it matters for that agent. I suspect that he'll never get work again.

Agreed for the most part, especially the last line. You pay an agent to watch your contract for you. That agent lost commission on$2 million because he didn't do his job.

CoMoChief · 07-26-2013, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native

I hope his agent has a good E&O policy because he is going to be sued.

Exactly what for though?

The agent just says to the courts "of course I told him XYZ...."

**ptlyon** · 07-26-2013, 11:32 AM

So now he gives a shit about OTA's?

Got it.

GloryDayz · 07-26-2013, 11:32 AM

Bad day at the office for all...

GloryDayz · 07-26-2013, 12:10 PM

I wish we had such a clause in the Royals owner's deal for home games... I'd love it if that ****er had to show his face at games!

**ptlyon** · 07-26-2013, 12:37 PM

That's the problem. Nobody is responsible for their own actions anymore.

jettio · 07-26-2013, 12:53 PM

You never really know what the course of communication was when the contract was negotitated and signed or when Brown made the decision to stay at home and not attend the off season workouts.

Did he even call or write the agent Overstreet and tell him that he wanted an answer on that decision before he made it?

I doubt there is going to be any lawsuit because there probably are some letters or e-mails from when the contract was signed specifically explaining the bonuses and Brown probably did not even call or write the agent to ask about his decision not to attend workouts.

From Googling his name, looks like Overstreet has a lot of name players and maybe they are satisfied with his representation.

If Brown did not know that 2/3 of his salary depended on 1 bonus, I would not assume that he never got that specific information in a separate writing from the signed contract. Of course, the signed player contract has too many pages, but more than likely he got that inforamtion in a one page summary or e-mail.

**wazu** · 07-26-2013, 02:02 PM

How about if you are being paid millions to play football you just show up voluntarily to offseason workouts? Why does it take a multi-million dollar clause to get you show?

-King- · 07-26-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu

How about if you are being paid millions to play football you just show up voluntarily to offseason workouts? Why does it take a multi-million dollar clause to get you show?

Some players just like to work out on their own.11 of San Francisco's 22 starters didn't go to OTAs. If you're familiar with the system and know it's not going to change, it's not that big of a deal if you skip OTAs and train on your own.

http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archiv...-absences.html

**ptlyon** · 07-26-2013, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Some players just like to work out on their own.11 of San Francisco's 22 starters didn't go to OTAs.

And one didn't get paid

Eleazar · 07-26-2013, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu

How about if you are being paid millions to play football you just show up voluntarily to offseason workouts? Why does it take a multi-million dollar clause to get you show?

That was my initial reaction. Is it that big of a problem to attend workouts in exchange for $2 million freaking dollars?

mcaj22 · 07-26-2013, 02:18 PM

i think the agent has a leg to stand on though,

its not like Overstreet is some nobody or Browns cousin brother uncle given an agent job. Overstreet reps a lot of mid tier serviceable NFL players.

So if you think Overstreet didnt have the wording of that contract correct or helps his clients think again.

The guy has to deal with players like Dre Kirkpatrick and Nick Fairley I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt his company told Brown to get the **** to practice soon,

like he probably did any of his other clients with camp escalators.

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jettio MVP Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $4934930	You never really know what the course of communication was when the contract was negotitated and signed or when Brown made the decision to stay at home and not attend the off season workouts. Did he even call or write the agent Overstreet and tell him that he wanted an answer on that decision before he made it? I doubt there is going to be any lawsuit because there probably are some letters or e-mails from when the contract was signed specifically explaining the bonuses and Brown probably did not even call or write the agent to ask about his decision not to attend workouts. From Googling his name, looks like Overstreet has a lot of name players and maybe they are satisfied with his representation. If Brown did not know that 2/3 of his salary depended on 1 bonus, I would not assume that he never got that specific information in a separate writing from the signed contract. Of course, the signed player contract has too many pages, but more than likely he got that inforamtion in a one page summary or e-mail. __________________ Where Ignorance is Bliss, 'Tis Folly to be Wise. __
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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	i think the agent has a leg to stand on though, its not like Overstreet is some nobody or Browns cousin brother uncle given an agent job. Overstreet reps a lot of mid tier serviceable NFL players. So if you think Overstreet didnt have the wording of that contract correct or helps his clients think again. The guy has to deal with players like Dre Kirkpatrick and Nick Fairley I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt his company told Brown to get the **** to practice soon, like he probably did any of his other clients with camp escalators.
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