Chiefs Take a QB in the 1st round next year? - Page 5

Alphaman · 12-22-2008, 11:20 AM

Said Dolphins LB Akin Ayodele of Thigpen, who finished with 320 yards passing, “I like him. He’s an athletic quarterback. Brodie Croyle is going to watch his back next year. There’s going to be a battle for the starting position.”

When the opposition starts to give your young QB props, you have to a moment to really consider if you need to look for his replacement. I'd really try to get Rich Gannon to come in this offseason as a consultant and work with Thigpen for a few weeks. I'd ask him to go over film and work with him on the field to work through the nuances of the game, particularly executing the boot which Thigpen hasn't mastered yet.

Reerun_KC · 12-22-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

A guy who takes shitty angles, and has no idea how to wrap up a ball carrier should not be a LB. I think he should be our backup SS.

Far enough, It just seemed that he would be better suited there... This would of been a good year to try him out there and see if he could of been coached up to be a productive player...

But then again that was asking to much by the coaching staff...

Reerun_KC · 12-22-2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I've brought this up...there's going to be some serious humor in a few months. The day Herm and his staff is fired is the day Thigpens future takes a serious hit.

I agree, I am not saying the kid cant be an asset to the team... Heck maybe he could even be used as a Wes Welker type of player on 3rd downs?

Just a thought?

beach tribe · 12-22-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I stated this earlier in this thread I am going to put my full trust in the new GM and HC.

You know the same question could be put to the other side as well. What if they pass on a QB in the draft and have Thigpen as the franchise QB? What will those people do?

If we pass on Stafford or Bradford it will be a huge mistake. The offer that the Vikes made for Quinn is a good indication that we could get good value for either of them if Thiggy turns out to be "the guy".

**dirk digler** · 12-22-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

If we pass on Stafford or Bradford it will be a huge mistake. The offer that the Vikes made for Quinn is a good indication that we could get good value for either of them if Thiggy turns out to be "the guy".

I would agree with you if we pass on Stafford I am not sold on Bradford at all.

I think CP would melt down more if they passed on one of them compared to if they drafted one of them and let Thigpen be the backup or cut Thigpen.

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 12:58 PM

Bradford probably isn't a good idea for us unless we are going to be a ball controlled short passing team, in this environment when December rolls around his ball would die in the cold.

ChiefsCountry · 12-22-2008, 01:07 PM

I really dont get lets not draft one in the 1st, lets get one in the 2nd crowd. Only two 2nd QBs have ever won the Super Bowl and one of them was traded for a 1st. You can get franchise defensive players later in the draft than a franchise qb. Its basically proven over time.

Chiefnj2 · 12-22-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Bradford probably isn't a good idea for us unless we are going to be a ball controlled short passing team, in this environment when December rolls around his ball would die in the cold.

Tom Brady was considered to have a weak arm, but he's found a way to sling the ball around the NE cold and wind.

beach tribe · 12-22-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I would agree with you if we pass on Stafford I am not sold on Bradford at all.

I think CP would melt down more if they passed on one of them compared to if they drafted one of them and let Thigpen be the backup or cut Thigpen.

I agree completely. I included Bradford because some people are enamored with him. I am not, and wouldn't be upset if we passed on him as I said I would. But if we pass on Stafford, I will lose it. I'm not Ms. Cleo, but I think Stafford is going to be a great pro, and with the weapons we have, I think he could turn out to be the best QB the Chiefs have had in Since Lenny.

eazyb81 · 12-22-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Tom Brady was considered to have a weak arm, but he's found a way to sling the ball around the NE cold and wind.

Mecca has trouble understanding that there is a middle ground between a bazooka for an arm like JaMarcus Russell and a noodle arm like Pennington.

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Tom Brady was considered to have a weak arm, but he's found a way to sling the ball around the NE cold and wind.

Tom Brady is 40lbs heavier today than he was on draft day....

**DeezNutz** · 12-22-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Tom Brady is 40lbs heavier today than he was on draft day....

Bradford is going to have to put on weight, too, or he's going to be Croyle v.2.

Stryker · 12-22-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Tom Brady was considered to have a weak arm, but he's found a way to sling the ball around the NE cold and wind.

the Tuck rule?

beach tribe · 12-22-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I really dont get lets not draft one in the 1st, lets get one in the 2nd crowd. Only two 2nd QBs have ever won the Super Bowl and one of them was traded for a 1st. You can get franchise defensive players later in the draft than a franchise qb. Its basically proven over time.

This is a fact. The #s don't lie. Sure there's been a couple QBs found later in the draft, but it is such a longshot.

Chiefnj2 · 12-22-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Tom Brady is 40lbs heavier today than he was on draft day....

Brady now weighs in at 250lbs?

**HemiEd** · 12-22-2008, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He's every bit as big of a project as Thigpen is......bad throwing mechanics, shotgun all the time, spread run based option at that...

It's just not a good idea.

Didn't Archie Manning have one more son?

12-22-2008, 11:20 AM
Alphaman Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Austin, TX, USA Casino cash: $10004900	Take a QB in the 1st round next year? Said Dolphins LB Akin Ayodele of Thigpen, who finished with 320 yards passing, “I like him. He’s an athletic quarterback. Brodie Croyle is going to watch his back next year. There’s going to be a battle for the starting position.” When the opposition starts to give your young QB props, you have to a moment to really consider if you need to look for his replacement. I'd really try to get Rich Gannon to come in this offseason as a consultant and work with Thigpen for a few weeks. I'd ask him to go over film and work with him on the field to work through the nuances of the game, particularly executing the boot which Thigpen hasn't mastered yet.
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ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $2288752	I really dont get lets not draft one in the 1st, lets get one in the 2nd crowd. Only two 2nd QBs have ever won the Super Bowl and one of them was traded for a 1st. You can get franchise defensive players later in the draft than a franchise qb. Its basically proven over time.
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