Chiefs AP: Haley expected to bring Meat and Potatoes offense back

talastan · 02-14-2011, 12:29 PM

If repost

Oh well....

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/2...ense#storyjump

Chiefs Expected To Bring Back 'Meat And Potatoes' Offense
by Joel Thorman on Feb 14, 2011 6:01 AM PST

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I remember when Todd Haley was first hired to the Kansas City Chiefs. He was coming from Arizona, where he had QB Kurt Warner, WR Larry Fitzgerald and WR Anquan Boldin, so the thinking was that Haley's going to come in and go pass-crazy because that's his background.

Well, more research showed that Haley was just working with what he had in Arizona. His real background is a more conservative offense. That's why this tidbit from Dan Pompei of National Football Post isn't a major surprise:

Making Bill Muir the Chiefs' offensive coordinator made sense from this perspective: head coach Todd Haley wants to run a meat and potatoes offense. He believes the Chiefs' offensive personnel is best suited to play smash mouth football. In fact, I've been told that was one of the sources of conflict between Haley and Charlie Weis, the former offensive coordinator. Weis wanted to use a lot of shotgun and spread formations while jazzing up the offense. Haley wanted to play it more conservatively.

I think we saw a lot of this in year one of Haley's career in Kansas City, which is also the year he called plays. With more talent, and a better understanding of the system, that doesn't necessarily mean the Chiefs offense will resemble that 2009 group.

If this is the way Haley wants to go, that's fine with me. In 2009, he didn't know he had the best running back in football on his team. This time around, we know that he does, so a conservative approach makes sense.

talastan · 02-14-2011, 12:30 PM

This is more of a statement of Cassel then confidence in Charles IMO.

**RealSNR** · 02-14-2011, 12:32 PM

It was speculation in the other thread and it's speculation in this thread

**Rain Man** · 02-14-2011, 12:32 PM

It's an okay nickname, I guess, but I'm confused. Is Charles meat and Jones is potatoes, or is Jones meat and Charles is potatoes.

At least it's different than the usual thunder and lightning name.

trndobrd · 02-14-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

It's an okay nickname, I guess, but I'm confused. Is Charles meat and Jones is potatoes, or if Jones meat and Charles is potatoes.

At least it's different than the usual thunder and lightning name.

Who the hell is Gravy?

LaChapelle · 02-14-2011, 12:34 PM

Bowe is the flank steak
Cassel is the yam

**Rain Man** · 02-14-2011, 12:37 PM

You'd think that Waters would be Dinner Roll and Albert would be Pie.

I kind of like the whole Thanksgiving Offense theme.

**Donger** · 02-14-2011, 12:38 PM

I holding out hope for the Mac & Cheese special teams and Mongolian Beef defense, personally.

FAX · 02-14-2011, 12:46 PM

I'm pretty sure that Bowe is Cheesy Grits. This would explain the lack of separation.

FAX

LaChapelle · 02-14-2011, 12:48 PM

He needs to take off the gloves

**Rausch** · 02-14-2011, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LaChapelle

He needs to take off the gloves

He needs to pass the gloves to a qualified professional...

**Bowser** · 02-14-2011, 12:51 PM

I'm waiting for the "Nachos With a Side of Antifreeze" offense.

keg in kc · 02-14-2011, 01:00 PM

It's like deja-vu all over again.

KCUnited · 02-14-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

I'm waiting for the "Nachos With a Side of Antifreeze" offense.

That was '07 with Priest and Herm.

DMAC · 02-14-2011, 01:06 PM

I really hate the phrase, "Meat & Po..."

I refuse to type it.

02-14-2011, 12:29 PM
talastan Manning, we're coming for you! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Springfield, Mo Casino cash: $10004950	AP: Haley expected to bring Meat and Potatoes offense back If repost Oh well.... http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/2...ense#storyjump Chiefs Expected To Bring Back 'Meat And Potatoes' Offense by Joel Thorman on Feb 14, 2011 6:01 AM PST 59 comments Email Print. Ronald Martinez - Getty Images . View full size photo » I remember when Todd Haley was first hired to the Kansas City Chiefs. He was coming from Arizona, where he had QB Kurt Warner, WR Larry Fitzgerald and WR Anquan Boldin, so the thinking was that Haley's going to come in and go pass-crazy because that's his background. Well, more research showed that Haley was just working with what he had in Arizona. His real background is a more conservative offense. That's why this tidbit from Dan Pompei of National Football Post isn't a major surprise: Making Bill Muir the Chiefs' offensive coordinator made sense from this perspective: head coach Todd Haley wants to run a meat and potatoes offense. He believes the Chiefs' offensive personnel is best suited to play smash mouth football. In fact, I've been told that was one of the sources of conflict between Haley and Charlie Weis, the former offensive coordinator. Weis wanted to use a lot of shotgun and spread formations while jazzing up the offense. Haley wanted to play it more conservatively. I think we saw a lot of this in year one of Haley's career in Kansas City, which is also the year he called plays. With more talent, and a better understanding of the system, that doesn't necessarily mean the Chiefs offense will resemble that 2009 group. If this is the way Haley wants to go, that's fine with me. In 2009, he didn't know he had the best running back in football on his team. This time around, we know that he does, so a conservative approach makes sense.
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