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Old 09-16-2014, 09:09 AM  
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Let's have a conversation about the job John Dorsey has done thus far.

In his first year, he drafted a bunch of guys that got hurt and showed nothing as rookies, but luckily he didn't need them because a bunch of guys stepped up. 3 of those players have been quite good in year 2...so far anyway.

Fisher
Davis
Kelce

All 3 have the ability to be good starters and that's an above average draft class if we are being objective.

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Kush
Johnson
Catapano

These guys are all wild cards that can really tip the strength of the overall draft class. I think Kush has the ability to be a solid starter, myself. Who knows about Catapano.

Giving up so much for Alex Smith, but I'll reserve judgement until I see how he performs this year. If he plays well, I think the compensation was decent and also strengthens the overall draft class.

As it sits right now, I have a hard time grading the 2013 draft class lower than a solid B...with a chance to be a B+ or A- as the year goes on and more info is available.

Everybody was thrilled with free agency last year, but the contracts given to these guys were just silly. Especially to Colquitt, Daniel and Fasano. Those contracts are gonna prohibit us from locking up Berry or Houston long term. Watch. We all knew KC would need to overpay to bring free agents in to a bad team in an undesirable market...that's what happened.

The deal for Devito was ok (can't count the Achilles against the signing) but overall free agency can't get graded higher than a D+\C-. Maybe lower.

I don't think it would be fair to judge the 2014 draft class in any way with us only 2 games in, so I won't even touch on it.

Moving on to the 2014 free agent class...

Letting 3 starting quality offensive linemen walk is a tough pill to swallow...especially when the OL looks (early on at least) to be a real weakness on the team. Simply unacceptable. It sucks that we didn't target guys like TJ Ward or got things finalized with Sanders cause those would have helped us BIG TIME. And for similar money we gave to guys like Daniel and Fasano. Very frustrating. Replacing Tyson Jackson with Walker seems like an upgrade and signing Vickerson was solid as well. No way should they have paid Dexter what he got in Tennessee, so that one worked out as well. Letting Demps and Lewis walk were also solid decisions. I think I'd be hard pressed to grade this free agency period higher than a C- and if it weren't for signing Vickerson, it would be a D...at best.

IMO we missed a huge opportunity to upgrade the team here. Hopefully the reasons they have for why they did this are making sure to retain Houston and Berry long termZ if we don't, I want his head on a pike for losing either guy.

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Old 09-16-2014, 09:10 AM   #2
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:12 AM   #3
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:16 AM   #4
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:18 AM   #5
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After Dorsey goes 5-11 this year, the Asst GM down in Atlanta will be like: "Hey I went to the playoffs once in KC too, and I lost that game too, and I won about as many games my first two years too."


And he'd be right.
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:20 AM   #6
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:22 AM   #7
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:25 AM   #8
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:27 AM   #9
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:35 AM   #10
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:41 AM   #11
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Of the 3 you name as potential "good starters" there's only one that I think actually has a chance and that's Kelce.

Fisher is...

And Davis is a decent backup. He's not shifty. He often gets taken down at the los, but every now and then when he gets a BIG hole he can spring a run for 10+ yards. He's like Jackie Battle, just a change of pace back.
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:47 AM   #12
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The problem is we're in limbo. We aren't rebuilding with a young quarterback (like Oakland or Jacksonville where it's acceptable to suck) and we aren't anywhere close to being a solid team. So why did we sign Alex Smith to such a huge contract extension? He's a solid QB who can win with a good team around him, which we don't have. The only way signing him to that extension is acceptable is if we still aggressively pursue a long term solution at QB. I'm not counting out Murray/Bray yet (although I wouldn't hold my breath) but drafting QB's in the later rounds or undrafted free agency is NOT aggressively pursuing a QB.

If we have a top 10 pick next year (which seems likely) we really better not ****ing pass on a QB if one is available because of Alex Smith on the team. That would be just like the Chiefs of course.
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:57 AM   #13
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Obama anyone? Guess that is better left for DC.

There is something in the water in KC that causes GM's to act like, well, um, a KC GM.
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:59 AM   #14
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Obama anyone? Guess that is better left for DC.

There is something in the water in KC that causes GM's to act like, well, um, a KC GM.
Drinking from a poisoned well in the Hunt family back yard.
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After Dorsey goes 5-11 this year, the Asst GM down in Atlanta will be like: "Hey I went to the playoffs once in KC too, and I lost that game too, and I won about as many games my first two years too."


And he'd be right.
And he can also say that I was a complete dick and everyone hated me. and that he was running the franchise into the ground.

He'd be right there also.
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