Neenah, Wisconsin cops stop men open carry stop

[demonhero]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b59_1384076493



I hate cops. inb4 political board.

[The Franchise]

No1curr

[Easy 6]

The title doesn't make a lick of sense.

[BlackHelicopters]

What?

[baitism]

Couldn't take the cops Lou Holtz lisp.

[BlackHelicopters]

Originally Posted by baitism

Couldn't take the cops Lou Holtz lisp.

Bad dentures

[The Franchise]

I'm going to shoot you in the head.

[Bugeater]

18 min video? **** that shit.

[Cephalic Trauma]

He's carrying a rifle because it's "within his rights." That's the only reason he's doing so. That isn't stupid as shit to some people? JFC.

[Cephalic Trauma]

This isn't even about pro or anti-gun. This is about pro or anti stir shit up because it's my right. He had no practical reason to have that gun on his shoulder.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

This isn't even about pro or anti-gun. This is about pro or anti stir shit up because it's my right. He had no practical reason to have that gun on his shoulder.

He doesn't need a practical reason.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by patteeu

He doesn't need a practical reason.

You're correct, which is why the officers let him go. But when police get calls about someone walking down the road with a rifle, they have an obligation to investigate. They did, they let them go, but not before telling them he thought it was not a smart choice - and the cop was right.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by patteeu

He doesn't need a practical reason.

To carry one holstered, I agree. To walk down the street with a gun in his hand? At least I'm assuming that's what the guy had in his hand. Not gonna watch the whole thing.

[CrazyPhuD]

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

He's carrying a rifle because it's "within his rights." That's the only reason he's doing so. That isn't stupid as shit to some people? JFC.

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

This isn't even about pro or anti-gun. This is about pro or anti stir shit up because it's my right. He had no practical reason to have that gun on his shoulder.

Personally I think the open carry movement is counterproductive but they do and should have the right to do it.

What it exposes is a discriminatory nature in our society. Why does the mere act of someone carrying a gun make you think they present a threat?

Do you feel threatened if you see a cop in uniform with a pistol on his hip?

Now take that exact same person and put him in regular clothes. Do you now consider him to be a threat where he wasn't before in uniform?

What happens if you change him from white to black, does that now make him a threat?

You see the real issue in play here actually isn't about the second amendment, etc. It's about people who chose to discriminate and judge people based on appearance.

How is this any different than the terrible practice police use to 'stop and frisk'? Police in those cases are using race to stop and question someone. In these cases they are using the presence of a firearm without any other actions.

That's what makes this bad for everyone. If someone chooses to express themselves by wearing a firearm why should they be discriminated against? That's the biggest issue, it's a violation of your 1st amendment rights, much less any others.

We should make stops based upon people's actions not based upon their appearance. If someone is doing something suspicious and carrying a firearm, or something threatening then by all means stop and investigate.

But no one should be stopped just because of their appearance, whether that appearance is racial or the presence of a firearm.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

Personally I think the open carry movement is counterproductive but they do and should have the right to do it.

What it exposes is a discriminatory nature in our society. Why does the mere act of someone carrying a gun make you think they present a threat?

Do you feel threatened if you see a cop in uniform with a pistol on his hip?

Now take that exact same person and put him in regular clothes. Do you now consider him to be a threat where he wasn't before in uniform?

What happens if you change him from white to black, does that now make him a threat?

You see the real issue in play here actually isn't about the second amendment, etc. It's about people who chose to discriminate and judge people based on appearance.

How is this any different than the terrible practice police use to 'stop and frisk'? Police in those cases are using race to stop and question someone. In these cases they are using the presence of a firearm without any other actions.

That's what makes this bad for everyone. If someone chooses to express themselves by wearing a firearm why should they be discriminated against? That's the biggest issue, it's a violation of your 1st amendment rights, much less any others.

We should make stops based upon people's actions not based upon their appearance. If someone is doing something suspicious and carrying a firearm, or something threatening then by all means stop and investigate.

But no one should be stopped just because of their appearance, whether that appearance is racial or the presence of a firearm.

In this case, we would be reactive instead of proactive if we waited until this individual acted in a suspicious manner. At that point, you may have an accidental or intentional death on your hands because this guy wanted to carry a rifle without being disturbed. It is absolutely intuitive to feel threatened when someone has the capability to easily end your life at his or her discretion.

And, questioning one's sanity when they feel the need to carry a rifle for protection when no imminent danger is present seems to be reasonable to me.