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Old 12-19-2012, 11:16 AM  
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Why the Chiefs need Cowher...
No Super Bowl winning coach has ever won the Super Bowl again with a different team. We know this.

We also know the NFL is fixed.

There wouldn't be a bigger story line in the NFL next year than if the Chiefs, who haven't drafted a QB since Todd Blackledge, were to win the Super Bowl, making Cowher, who has been in the broadcast booth, the first coach to win it all with 2 different teams.

Make it happen, Roger!
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:22 PM   #331
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So, basically if zilla was GM nobody would ever be fired. Excuses for everyone!!!!
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:23 PM   #332
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A gm can be saved by horrible personnel decisions if he has an elite qb and makes a good head coach hire. See Indy. A head coach in this league cannot win without an elite qb and, if not an elite qb, anything short of an elite supporting cast. There are few exceptions to this rule.

I wanted to see what Haley could do with an average qb, let Alone a great one. To say otherwise is a complete contradiction to the huge focus we spent all year shitting on pioli for the cassel decision.
This year shows what Haley can do with a great qb...

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Old 12-22-2012, 09:26 PM   #333
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What team wouldn't be 20th with their RB situation??/zilla

Got a QB that's lead the team to multiple superbowls with improvision and big plays down the field....make him a dink and dunker.
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:30 PM   #334
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So, basically if zilla was GM nobody would ever be fired. Excuses for everyone!!!!
No,if a gm does an average job, a coach should be expected to win.

Herm took a grenade for peterson's abortion moves at qb and years of botched drafts. I've said herm should have been fired eventually. But people want to claim he blew the team apart. Bullshit. His bold move to blow up the team was a terrific and necessary move.

Haley, on the other hand.... He was blamed for not winning with bad personnel he lobbied against but was vetoed by an arrogant gm who only knew one way. Its only fAir to ask how he would have done if he had a shred of say, including the shitty qb he didn't want to play.
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Big Ben prior to injury was having a career year. I really don't care if he doesn't get production out of third string running backs and offensive linemen. I can assure you if he gets a second year with a healthy cast, the steelers offense will do well.
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:33 PM   #336
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Big Ben prior to injury was having a career year. I really don't care if he doesn't get production out of third string running backs and offensive linemen. I can assure you if he gets a second year with a healthy cast, the steelers offense will do well.
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What team wouldn't be 20th with their RB situation??/zilla

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The offensive line is banged up. Big Ben has missed a few games. The rbs are banged up, have played a backup all year. And had to use Ike redman for a stretch?. And the defense that normally wins games for the steelers is an abortion.

But by all means. This year is Haley's fault.
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What a useless ****ing discussion.
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Big Ben prior to injury was having a career year. I really don't care if he doesn't get production out of third string running backs and offensive linemen. I can assure you if he gets a second year with a healthy cast, the steelers offense will do well.
"Evaluation year."
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:33 AM   #341
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"Evaluation year."
No, I'm pointing out the typical over reactionary nature of cp. That because the steelers aren't winning, that means Haley is a terrible coordinator. They arent winning because the #1 points defense has slipped to #8 and has been downright miserable in most of their losses and the defense that used to force 30-40 turnovers a year is now on pace to force half of that. Throw in the mike Wallace holdout and the fact that injury has forced three scrubs to start at o line all season long and they have been downright horrible. And that big Ben Missed three games and wasn't 100% in his return.

But by all means... Blame Haley. The problems in Pittsburgh are mostly about horrible oline play from third string talent, horrible rb play from third string talent contributing to a 24th ranked run offense, a massive decline in defense that is giving up more points and creating half the turnovers. But yeah... It's convenient here to blame the new guy. I'm not saying Haley has been perfect. But shit is literally exploded around him in areas he is not responsible for.
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Oh, is this the part where we pretend bad offensive line play is a new thing for the Steelers? Haley was a downgrade from Bruce Arians.
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Oh, is this the part where we pretend bad offensive line play is a new thing for the Steelers? Haley was a downgrade from Bruce Arians.
The talent on this starting oline is a hell of a lot worse than anything Arians had to deal with as are the RBs. That is a pure talent issue, not a coaching issue.

In spite of the major talent issues, people laughingly point to their 20th ranked offense as if the Steelers fell off the clip. They were the 21st ranked offense last year. Before injury, Big Ben was on pace to have a career season in yards, TDs, and in least amount of sacks and INTs.

The biggest problems in Pittsburgh are injuries, a defense that is rapidly slipping and is only the SECOND time in 6 years they will not be ranked in the top 5 in points defense, and a defense that is forcing HALF as many turnovers as they have in years prior. It's ridiculous to say Haley is anywhere near being on the list of top reasons the Steelers are not runaway playoff players.
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Flame away on me, but Cowher will bring the 90's back and bring with it the ability to win in the playoffs and a franchise SB winning QB, whose name rimes with Beno.


Lets do this.
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I'm weary of Cowher.

If I recall, his SB win was carried by the defense.....I 'think'. not 100% sure.

Oh...and officiating.
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