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Old 02-18-2013, 06:03 PM   #1
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And Bradford went #1. So why the **** can't Geno?
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:18 PM   #2
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And Bradford went #1. So why the **** can't Geno?
ryan leaf #1. does that make it right. ugh.

I'm a Geno fan. I was hoping he'd finish strong and justify the pick. I'll root for the kid wherever he lands, but he's a reach and so was bradford. leaf is just a dumb shit.

the point is any of them is not just an automatic NFL star, they all need to work hard to even get going in the NFL. I liked braford, especially his final season was convincing. but it just isn't that simple.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:22 PM   #3
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ryan leaf #1. does that make it right. ugh.

I'm a Geno fan. I was hoping he'd finish strong and justify the pick. I'll root for the kid wherever he lands, but he's a reach and so was bradford. leaf is just a dumb shit.

the point is any of them is not just an automatic NFL star, they all need to work hard to even get going in the NFL. I liked braford, especially his final season was convincing. but it just isn't that simple.
At the time, Bradford was not considered a reach. He was thought of as the best QB available and in college, he demonstrated outstanding accuracy. The main concern with him was his build/ propensity for injuries, and so far in the NFL, those concerns have been validated.

Also, unlike others, im not ready to call Bradford a bust yet. He made some decent improvements last season and appears to still be ascending.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:24 PM   #4
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The main concern with him was his build/ propensity for injuries, and so far in the NFL, those concerns have been validated.
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Bradford has played 2 full seasons out of 3. And the season he missed time in was because he had a high ankle sprain, which was made worse due to a HC thinking his job was on the line with the success of that team.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:27 PM   #5
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Bradford has played 2 full seasons out of 3. And the season he missed time in was because he had a high ankle sprain, which was made worse due to a HC thinking his job was on the line with the success of that team.
And he played most of last season injured. I dont follow the Rams well enough to know his injuries, but every time he gets mentioned they seem to be talking about him being dinged up.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:29 PM   #6
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At the time, Bradford was not considered a reach. He was thought of as the best QB available and in college, he demonstrated outstanding accuracy. The main concern with him was his build/ propensity for injuries, and so far in the NFL, those concerns have been validated.

Also, unlike others, im not ready to call Bradford a bust yet. He made some decent improvements last season and appears to still be ascending.
yes, but I notice you did not say he's a star, which was my point. I like bradford, but he has disappointed imo. He's likely going to become a good player (not a bust), but I expected his progress to be better than this.

Imo bradford's last collegiate season was better than Geno's.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:30 PM   #7
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yes, but I notice you did not say he's a star, which was my point. I like bradford, but he has disappointed imo. He's likely going to become a good player (not a bust), but I expected his progress to be better than this.

Imo bradford's last collegiate season was better than Geno's.
Part of that's because of situations he can't control. His progress was stunted with Shurmur leaving and McDaniels coming in, as well as horrid OL play.

Since Schottenheimer is staying, I expect to see more progress this season.
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yes, but I notice you did not say he's a star, which was my point. I like bradford, but he has disappointed imo. He's likely going to become a good player (not a bust), but I expected his progress to be better than this.

Imo bradford's last collegiate season was better than Geno's.
He threw for under six hundred yards in his last season.
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:14 PM   #9
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ya, I'm aware of it. what does it mean to you? obviously you think that was not worthy of shit. yet there he was, chosen first and there he is starting QB in the NFL. this is why stats only posts suck.
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ya, I'm aware of it. what does it mean to you? obviously you think that was not worthy of shit. yet there he was, chosen first and there he is starting QB in the NFL. this is why stats only posts suck.
so you think a season in which a qb was hurt twice and threw for less than six hundred yards was more impressive than Geno last year?
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:22 PM   #11
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ryan leaf #1. does that make it right. ugh.

I'm a Geno fan. I was hoping he'd finish strong and justify the pick. I'll root for the kid wherever he lands, but he's a reach and so was bradford. leaf is just a dumb shit.

the point is any of them is not just an automatic NFL star, they all need to work hard to even get going in the NFL. I liked braford, especially his final season was convincing. but it just isn't that simple.
Bullshit, Bradford was absolutely not a reach.

The Rams had absolute garbage at the QB position and the only question was whether or not they should go with him or Suh. At worst, there was a 50/50 split and that's because people were calling Suh the next Sapp.

Not because they didn't think Bradford was a worthy #1 overall pick. Bradford was being touted as a potential #1 overall the season before and that's when he was going up against Stafford as a prospect, another guy that everyone loved at 1.1.

Don't treat this in hindsight - in real time there was absolutely nothing 'reach' about Bradford.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:32 PM   #12
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Bullshit, Bradford was absolutely not a reach.

The Rams had absolute garbage at the QB position and the only question was whether or not they should go with him or Suh. At worst, there was a 50/50 split and that's because people were calling Suh the next Sapp.

Not because they didn't think Bradford was a worthy #1 overall pick. Bradford was being touted as a potential #1 overall the season before and that's when he was going up against Stafford as a prospect, another guy that everyone loved at 1.1.

Don't treat this in hindsight - in real time there was absolutely nothing 'reach' about Bradford.
I felt at the time he was a bit of a reach. I felt that draft was weak up top 15 or so, and as I have said about drafting Geno, it was a need and the staff felt they could get him to play. I think he'll be alright, I think the same of Geno. but I also think these guys are going to need a lot of time and help. coaching helps, especially at first.
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