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duncan_idaho · 09:30 AM

With my 6,000th post on ChiefsPlanet (it only took me 12 years to get here), I bring you: The 2014 Kansas City Royals Repository.

To be discussed here: All things Royals, as they attempt to post another winning season and make it back to the playoffs for the first time since 1985.

25-man RosterAvailable HERE

AL Central Standings:

Link

Duncan's Top 20 Royals Prospects

Spoiler!

Mecca · 03-21-2014, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KevB

Let the spin begin:

Poor David Glass

So Royals are going to lose money this year, somehow. Even if that were true (I don't believe it), how about the last several years when we've been playing a bunch of young guys? It's just so tiresome to be a fan of this organization, damn.

He's so full of shit, not to mention if the Royals have any type of sustained winning they'll draw.

**petegz28** · 03-21-2014, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Cheap shot by Salvy on Chapman. Hopefully he gets suspended.
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Um yeah, no....stfu

AndChiefs · 03-21-2014, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Um yeah, no....stfu

You're right. It's probably something more worthy of the Pete Rose treatment.

Cephalic Trauma · 03-21-2014, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Um yeah, no....stfu

You didn't see Salvy laughing.

WhawhaWhat · 03-21-2014, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AndChiefs

You're right. It's probably something more worthy of the Pete Rose treatment.

Lifetime suspension.

duncan_idaho · 03-21-2014, 11:47 AM

Tommy John strikes again -

Bruce Rondon is out for the season.

Tigers bullpen is going to be a mess and might actually be worse than a season ago, at this point.

**alnorth** · 03-21-2014, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevB

Let the spin begin:

Poor David Glass

So Royals are going to lose money this year, somehow. Even if that were true (I don't believe it), how about the last several years when we've been playing a bunch of young guys? It's just so tiresome to be a fan of this organization, damn.

We had an extensive discussion on Royals financials a couple months ago, and I'd rather wait a few more months or a full year before bringing that mess back up again, but the bottom line is, its probably true. We probably broke even or lost a little bit last year, and we'll probably lose money this year if we sell roughly the same number of tickets.

**alnorth** · 03-21-2014, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Tommy John strikes again -

Bruce Rondon is out for the season.

Tigers bullpen is going to be a mess and might actually be worse than a season ago, at this point.

NICE!!!

(insert platitude about how its too bad this guy got hurt, and hopefully he'll come back soon)

Mecca · 03-21-2014, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

We had an extensive discussion on Royals financials a couple months ago, and I'd rather wait a few more months or a full year before bringing that mess back up again, but the bottom line is, its probably true. We probably broke even or lost a little bit last year, and we'll probably lose money this year if we sell roughly the same number of tickets.

But does anyone remotely believe they wouldn't draw if they were good consistently?

nychief · 03-21-2014, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

But does anyone remotely believe they wouldn't draw if they were good consistently?

Attendance sucked last year and they were winning.

**alnorth** · 03-21-2014, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

But does anyone remotely believe they wouldn't draw if they were good consistently?

Yeah, but "being good consistently" isn't easy. They probably didn't make money last year, and they'll probably lose money this year unless they sell more tickets.

If they did sell an extra 750k-1MM tickets, that would probably enable (barely) a 9-digit payroll for as long as it lasts, but it wouldn't be a game-changer. TV is a lot more important.

**alnorth** · 03-21-2014, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief

Attendance sucked last year and they were winning.

Attendance always lags performance by about a year, 2014 should improve, but if it doesn't that would say a lot about the fans. (Assuming the Royals don't start out with a 10-game losing streak or something demoralizing like that)

Strongside · 03-21-2014, 02:32 PM

Chapman's head after surgery:

**alnorth** · 03-21-2014, 02:33 PM

Rany made a good point just now. Now that the Tigers are apparently going to field a subpar SS, and now that they have lost Rondon, if the Tigers were to, say, suddenly lose one of their best hitters they would probably no longer be the favorite in the AL Central.

C3HIEF3S · 03-21-2014, 02:36 PM

I still don't get why the fans get shit for not showing up last year. The Royals didn't even reach .500 until what? August? Having 2 winning seasons in the last 20 years doesn't exactly excite the casual fan. Now if the Royals are 10 games over .500 in June and competing for the central division and the fans still aren't there, then yeah it's a problem.

I would love to see 40,000 people at The K more than 2-3 times a year though, that's for sure.

EDIT: Royals reached .500 (51-51) on July 28th.

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duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1740308	2014 Royals Repository With my 6,000th post on ChiefsPlanet (it only took me 12 years to get here), I bring you: The 2014 Kansas City Royals Repository. To be discussed here: All things Royals, as they attempt to post another winning season and make it back to the playoffs for the first time since 1985. 25-man RosterAvailable HERE AL Central Standings: Link Duncan's Top 20 Royals Prospects Spoiler! 1) 3B Hunter Dozier ETA: 2015 Dozier started slowly at A+ Wilmington but caught fire in May and June, earning a mid-season promotion to AA Northwest Arkansas. Big, strong kid with good plate discipline skills and solid power who projects to be an above-average glove at 3B with solid power. 2) SS Raul (Adalberto) Mondesi ETA: 2017 Mondesis is the opposite of Dozier…. Started red-hot at Wilmington before back spasms derailed him for a few weeks and hasn’t gotten it going since coming back. Scouting reports have been great – defense and speed both improved over the offseason. Still a chance to be an elite SS, with 40 SB speed, plus glove, .300 average and some pop. 3) LHP Sean Manaea \| ETA: 2015 Scouting reports outperform the stat line so far. Missing a ton of bats at A+ but not preventing runs like you’d expect to see. Needs to work deeper into games (gradually working about an inning deeper/month so far this year) and improve control. Walks are biggest concern right now, but could be elevated due to work on extra off-speed offerings. Still has No. 2 starter potential, could be higher if the great control he exhibited before his hip surgery eventually comes back. 4) RHP Kyle Zimmer\| ETA: 2015 Should be NO. 1 on the list and is probably the Royals most VALUABLE current prospect, but he hasn’t thrown a ball in 4-5 weeks and had only been throwing for 2-3 weeks when he was shut down then. 5) LHP Brandon Finnegan\| ETA: 2015 Top 2014 draft choice is an undersized lefty who will start at A+ Wilmington after anchoring CWS run for TCU. Good fastball, better slider, change that needs work to stick as a starter, but if he sticks, No. 2/No. 3 starter upside. Likely a top 10 or even top 5 pick if he doesn’t miss 1 start in the middle of the college season as a precautionary move. 6) RHP Miguel Almonte\| ETA: 2016 Have heard some say Almonte is more advanced as a pitcher at A+ than Yordano Ventura was (comparison because both were cheap signs out of Latin America). Really advanced changeup and a curve that is working out well (where the ‘more advanced’ comment comes from). Fastball velo is good but not great – 92-94. Like Manaea, working on his second-best offspeed pitch and leaning less on his bread-and butter (changeup), which has hurt his numbers a bit. 7) RHP Christian Binford 2017 Reverse case of “don’t just scout stat lines.” Based on his stats at A+, you’d think he was an elite prospect, but there are questions about Binford’s stuff playing up at higher levels. Tall righty with great command of fastball, slider and a good and still developing changeup. None of those pitches profiles as better than average, though, limiting his likely upside to back-end rotation guy. 8) SS Orlando Calixte\| ETA: 2016 I still like him more than many. Good combination of SS/MI skills and power. Started hot at NWA but in a slump at moment. 9)LHP Foster Griffin \| ETA: 2019 Tall, projectable lefty taken in 2014 draft. Viewed as a great value in the sandwich round and probably would have been KC’s pick at No. 17 if Finnegan hadn’t fallen. High school arm who is going to take a while to develop. 10) RF Jorge Bonifacio\| ETA: 2016 Hasn’t hit as well as expected in his second go-round at AA NWA. Power still sapped, and average skills have dipped. Once looked like he might be an option in RF at some point in 2015, now looks like 2016 is optimistic. Still young for his level. 11) 3B/2B Cheslor Cuthbert\| ETA: 2016 Cuthbert has had better luck at NWA than Boni and is also extremely young for level. HE’s been moved to 2B since Dozier was promoted, which could put a new spin on Cuthbert’s prospects. If he sticks at 2B, bat plays up much better. Good OBP/plate discipline and solid power, but needs to continue improving contact skills 12) C Chase Vallot\| ETA: 2020 Young (just 17) C with tremendous power. One of the top prep bats and a great value for KC where it got him. If he sticks at C, expect him to move slowly, but the bat may force the issue (or force him to another position). 13) C Zane Evans\| ETA: 2017 GA Tech product has handled Wilmington better than most RH bats and probably is in line for a promotion to NWA sometime soon. Decent pop, decent skills behind the plate. Could be a nice reserve catcher. 14) RHP Scott Blewett\| ETA: 2020 Tall, projectable righty with a fresh arm but some injury concerns on his shoulder that slipped him out of Round 1 of MLB draft. Big time potential. 15) CF Bubba Starling \| ETA: Bubba Starling has great tools. Bubba Starling (still) can’t hit. That’s all I have to say about that. 16) 1B Samir Duenez\| ETA: I still like him, even though the attempt to run him through full season ball at 17 did not go well. 17)LF/RF Elier Hernandez\| ETA: Hernandez still pops up in scouting reports but still is very raw and toolsy. 18) RHP Pedro Fernandez\| ETA: Pop-up player on the same track as Ventura and Almonte. Similar signing, similar profile. One to watch over next few years. 19) SS Marten Gasparini\| ETA: Royals’ most expensive international signing likely moves to CF eventually, but his speed and athleticism are intriguing abilities. Early reports from complex ball are very positive on him. 20) RHP Niklas Stephenson\| ETA: Interesting pop-up candidate who found 10 more MPH on his fastball by using a weighted ball during workouts over the winter. Now sits mid-90s with fastball and is dominating at rookie ball (after having an ERA over 8 there a year ago). Likely promoted to a higher challenge soon. Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-01-2014 at 09:30 AM..
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03-21-2014, 11:47 AM	#2496
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1740308	Tommy John strikes again - Bruce Rondon is out for the season. Tigers bullpen is going to be a mess and might actually be worse than a season ago, at this point. __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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03-21-2014, 02:33 PM	#2504
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57166239	Rany made a good point just now. Now that the Tigers are apparently going to field a subpar SS, and now that they have lost Rondon, if the Tigers were to, say, suddenly lose one of their best hitters they would probably no longer be the favorite in the AL Central. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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03-21-2014, 02:36 PM	#2505
C3HIEF3S Let's Get Weird Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Austin Casino cash: $9990098	I still don't get why the fans get shit for not showing up last year. The Royals didn't even reach .500 until what? August? Having 2 winning seasons in the last 20 years doesn't exactly excite the casual fan. Now if the Royals are 10 games over .500 in June and competing for the central division and the fans still aren't there, then yeah it's a problem. I would love to see 40,000 people at The K more than 2-3 times a year though, that's for sure. EDIT: Royals reached .500 (51-51) on July 28th.
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