Chiefs Whitlock: Blame Moe, Larry and Curly for this Chiefs mess - Page 2

**Tribal Warfare** · 11-24-2008, 03:38 AM

Blame Moe, Larry and Curly for this Chiefs mess
By JASON WHITLOCK
The Kansas City Star

There’s no mystery here. Teams lacking an adequate amount of talent eventually collapse under the weight of trying to play perfectly.

Four days before Thanksgiving, inside two-thirds-full Arrowhead Stadium, the Buffalo Bills snapped the back of the Chiefs, thrashing and humiliating the home team 54-31.

There’s no reason to blame Tyler Thigpen, Glenn Dorsey, Tamba Hali or any of the nameless, faceless jerseys masquerading as starting NFL linebackers. It’s not their fault. They didn’t assemble this team.

Carl “Moe” Peterson, Herm “Larry” Edwards and Bill “Curly” Kuharich put together the worst team in Chiefs history, a squad with a two-year, 19-of-20 losing stretch.

For a solid month, the Chiefs feigned competitiveness by avoiding turnovers and penalties. Error-free football allowed the Chiefs to keep games close and fool some of us into believing they were making real progress.

Sunday, against a Buffalo team that had lost four straight, the disgusting truth reared its head like Putin staring down Sarah Palin’s lake house. The Chiefs jumped offside, picked up a personal foul, turned the ball over five times and played like the inexperienced, talent-deficient team they truly are.

The result was a franchise-record, 54-point meltdown that all but ensured Arrowhead will be less than half filled when the Dolphins and Chargers visit later this season.

It also ends the debate about whether the Chiefs are on the right path being blazed by Moe, Larry and Curly.

No way.

You could see in July that they had constructed a roster more capable of finishing 1-15 than 8-8. In fact, when I arrived at training camp, a Chiefs official told me that Herm should be praised if he took this team to a .500 finish.

I laughed out loud and said, “Herm should be coach of the year if this team wins four.”

I’m sure the Chiefs employee thought I was being flip. Allegedly, I’m prone toward bluster. I was dead serious. Without Jared Allen, the defense didn’t have a proven playmaker. On offense, I had no faith in Brodie Croyle, thought the QB depth chart was midmajor, assumed Larry Johnson wouldn’t handle the adversity and figured the offensive line would get exploited.

We have no reason to be surprised. The lone surprise of the season was Kansas City’s 33-19 trouncing of the Denver Broncos. Twenty years from now, football historians will still be trying to determine how these Chiefs won that game convincingly.

This team just isn’t built to win football games. It’s built to be $32 million under the salary cap while Arrowhead Stadium undergoes renovation. The season is a success. We’re getting exactly what Clark Hunt was willing to pay for and what Moe, Larry and Curly could conceive given their operating budget.

That in no way excuses Moe, Larry and Curly. They drafted Glenn Dorsey with the sixth overall pick. He has been completely ineffective. His rookie season has been far worse than Ryan Sims’ rookie season.

We knew the loss of Allen would destroy the Chiefs’ outside pass rush. The theory behind drafting Dorsey was that he would give Kansas City an inside push. He is supposed to disrupt the pocket from the inside. It just hasn’t happened.

Opposing quarterbacks don’t even need to wear a helmet and shoulder pads when playing the Chiefs. Bills coach Dick Jauron so enjoyed playing against KC’s front four that he left his struggling QB, Trent Edwards, in the game well into the fourth quarter just so Edwards could pad his passing stats.

“They kept throwing the football because they wanted to get their quarterback going,” Edwards acknowledged.

Kansas City’s defense is a confidence-builder for opposing quarterbacks. Runners, too. The Bills ran for 171 yards and averaged 4.5 yards per carry.

Dorsey hasn’t helped Kansas City’s run or pass defense.

This is a horrendously bad football team. Lucky for the Chiefs, they play in the equally horrendous AFC West. It’s going to be tough for the Chiefs to win just one more game this season. They get to play the Raiders, Broncos and Chargers again. The Chiefs also have a season-ending date with the Cincinnati Bengals. And the Dolphins are beatable.

Kansas City will win — in my estimation — two games down the stretch. But the inevitable victories will not excuse the game plan that put this roster together.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-24-2008, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Didja wax a chump like a candle? Didja?

He definitely rocks a mic like a vandal.

KCJohnny · 11-24-2008, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

They drafted Glenn Dorsey with the sixth overall pick. He has been completely ineffective. His rookie season has been far worse than Ryan Sims’ rookie season.

We knew the loss of Allen would destroy the Chiefs’ outside pass rush. The theory behind drafting Dorsey was that he would give Kansas City an inside push. He is supposed to disrupt the pocket from the inside. It just hasn’t happened.

Wow. Its pretty bad when the pick the entire draft universe praised is determined to be inferior to Ryan Sims. At least Terdell Sands is a starter on a halfway decent defense. This is putrid by anyone's standards.

TEX · 11-24-2008, 07:59 AM

This team just isn’t built to win football games. It’s built to be $32 million under the salary cap while Arrowhead Stadium undergoes renovation. The season is a success. We’re getting exactly what Clark Hunt was willing to pay for and what Moe, Larry and Curly could conceive given their operating budget.

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Whitlock nailed it. This is thre reason why everyone will be back next season. Clark bought into the deal before hand and gave the

II an excuse.

TEX · 11-24-2008, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

JWhit is right about Dorsey. When your drafted thaty high, your EXPECTED to produce immediatly.

Dorsey might become somthing eventually, but for now hes been completely ineffective.

Has as a lot to do with coaching.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-24-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Wow. Its pretty bad when the pick the entire draft universe praised is determined to be inferior to Ryan Sims. At least Terdell Sands is a starter on a halfway decent defense. This is putrid by anyone's standards.

He's a rookie defensive tackle 11 games into his pro career with a historically bad supporting cast!!

****, fans on this board are stupid.

Chiefnj2 · 11-24-2008, 08:20 AM

Right now Dorsey sucks. He's not collapsing the pocket, he isn't rushing the QB, he isn't stopping the run. The only reason why his "stats" are comparable to previous DTs, is because the defense sucks and is continuously on the field giving up long drives. He has more opportunities to make a rare play 5 yards downfield.

Messier · 11-24-2008, 08:31 AM

Did whitlock forget that Sims rookie season was about 5 games long and he had a total of 5 tackles? If you want to say that Dorsey's rookie season is comparable to Sims' second, and best season of his career then yes that works.

Lonewolf Ed · 11-24-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Extra Point

Cover-Blew defense. Can't Gunther be called Shemp in all this, too?

Nah, he's more like that Joe guy that Moe and Larry found before they hung it up for good. Joe was not in the slightest bit funny.

KCJohnny · 11-24-2008, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

****, fans on this board are stupid.

You are exibit A.

Brock · 11-24-2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

You are exibit A.

How's that Dantrell Savage thing working out for you?

KCJohnny · 11-24-2008, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

How's that Dantrell Savage thing working out for you?

I stand by it.

Brock · 11-24-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

I stand by it.

That's your problem.

KCJohnny · 11-24-2008, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

That's your problem.

Brock's unfathomable intellect has always presented a formidable challenge to KCJ. I will have to dedicate quality time to answering his clever response.

Brock · 11-24-2008, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Brock's unfathomable intellect has always presented a formidable challenge to KCJ. I will have to dedicate quality time to answering his clever response.

It's always the same thing with you - pick out some longshot project player and tout him even after he's cut and working at a shoe store. If anyone is "Exhibit A" of the typical moron fan - It's you.

CoMoChief · 11-24-2008, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Brock's unfathomable intellect has always presented a formidable challenge to KCJ. I will have to dedicate quality time to answering his clever response.

Wow, way to try and sound like you're smart.

11-24-2008, 03:38 AM
Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $892813	Whitlock: Blame Moe, Larry and Curly for this Chiefs mess Blame Moe, Larry and Curly for this Chiefs mess By JASON WHITLOCK The Kansas City Star There’s no mystery here. Teams lacking an adequate amount of talent eventually collapse under the weight of trying to play perfectly. Four days before Thanksgiving, inside two-thirds-full Arrowhead Stadium, the Buffalo Bills snapped the back of the Chiefs, thrashing and humiliating the home team 54-31. There’s no reason to blame Tyler Thigpen, Glenn Dorsey, Tamba Hali or any of the nameless, faceless jerseys masquerading as starting NFL linebackers. It’s not their fault. They didn’t assemble this team. Carl “Moe” Peterson, Herm “Larry” Edwards and Bill “Curly” Kuharich put together the worst team in Chiefs history, a squad with a two-year, 19-of-20 losing stretch. For a solid month, the Chiefs feigned competitiveness by avoiding turnovers and penalties. Error-free football allowed the Chiefs to keep games close and fool some of us into believing they were making real progress. Sunday, against a Buffalo team that had lost four straight, the disgusting truth reared its head like Putin staring down Sarah Palin’s lake house. The Chiefs jumped offside, picked up a personal foul, turned the ball over five times and played like the inexperienced, talent-deficient team they truly are. The result was a franchise-record, 54-point meltdown that all but ensured Arrowhead will be less than half filled when the Dolphins and Chargers visit later this season. It also ends the debate about whether the Chiefs are on the right path being blazed by Moe, Larry and Curly. No way. You could see in July that they had constructed a roster more capable of finishing 1-15 than 8-8. In fact, when I arrived at training camp, a Chiefs official told me that Herm should be praised if he took this team to a .500 finish. I laughed out loud and said, “Herm should be coach of the year if this team wins four.” I’m sure the Chiefs employee thought I was being flip. Allegedly, I’m prone toward bluster. I was dead serious. Without Jared Allen, the defense didn’t have a proven playmaker. On offense, I had no faith in Brodie Croyle, thought the QB depth chart was midmajor, assumed Larry Johnson wouldn’t handle the adversity and figured the offensive line would get exploited. We have no reason to be surprised. The lone surprise of the season was Kansas City’s 33-19 trouncing of the Denver Broncos. Twenty years from now, football historians will still be trying to determine how these Chiefs won that game convincingly. This team just isn’t built to win football games. It’s built to be $32 million under the salary cap while Arrowhead Stadium undergoes renovation. The season is a success. We’re getting exactly what Clark Hunt was willing to pay for and what Moe, Larry and Curly could conceive given their operating budget. That in no way excuses Moe, Larry and Curly. They drafted Glenn Dorsey with the sixth overall pick. He has been completely ineffective. His rookie season has been far worse than Ryan Sims’ rookie season. We knew the loss of Allen would destroy the Chiefs’ outside pass rush. The theory behind drafting Dorsey was that he would give Kansas City an inside push. He is supposed to disrupt the pocket from the inside. It just hasn’t happened. Opposing quarterbacks don’t even need to wear a helmet and shoulder pads when playing the Chiefs. Bills coach Dick Jauron so enjoyed playing against KC’s front four that he left his struggling QB, Trent Edwards, in the game well into the fourth quarter just so Edwards could pad his passing stats. “They kept throwing the football because they wanted to get their quarterback going,” Edwards acknowledged. Kansas City’s defense is a confidence-builder for opposing quarterbacks. Runners, too. The Bills ran for 171 yards and averaged 4.5 yards per carry. Dorsey hasn’t helped Kansas City’s run or pass defense. This is a horrendously bad football team. Lucky for the Chiefs, they play in the equally horrendous AFC West. It’s going to be tough for the Chiefs to win just one more game this season. They get to play the Raiders, Broncos and Chargers again. The Chiefs also have a season-ending date with the Cincinnati Bengals. And the Dolphins are beatable. Kansas City will win — in my estimation — two games down the stretch. But the inevitable victories will not excuse the game plan that put this roster together.
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TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Casino cash: $2343127	This team just isn’t built to win football games. It’s built to be $32 million under the salary cap while Arrowhead Stadium undergoes renovation. The season is a success. We’re getting exactly what Clark Hunt was willing to pay for and what Moe, Larry and Curly could conceive given their operating budget. _________________________________________________________________________________ Whitlock nailed it. This is thre reason why everyone will be back next season. Clark bought into the deal before hand and gave the II an excuse. __________________ "The CHIEFS, HAVE THEIR DYNASTY!"
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11-24-2008, 08:20 AM	#21
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7873688	Right now Dorsey sucks. He's not collapsing the pocket, he isn't rushing the QB, he isn't stopping the run. The only reason why his "stats" are comparable to previous DTs, is because the defense sucks and is continuously on the field giving up long drives. He has more opportunities to make a rare play 5 yards downfield. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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11-24-2008, 08:31 AM	#22
Messier MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005050	Did whitlock forget that Sims rookie season was about 5 games long and he had a total of 5 tackles? If you want to say that Dorsey's rookie season is comparable to Sims' second, and best season of his career then yes that works.
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