Gun is responsible for our horrid offense, not Raye

Cannibal · 09-14-2000, 07:35 AM

I copied this post from the KCSTAR, it was posted by Doug Svuba:

I just got the September 10 edition of the Chiefs Report, which was written before the Titans Game. If you were disappointed in the play calling on Sunday, and you want to remain a Gun fan don't read this quote:

"The bottom line is we're going to run the ball when we can, and when we are in a situation when we need to throw, we're still going to run the football."

There is another quote in this article about how Gun told JR to NEVER throw the ball if they were backed up in their own territory, and just to get in good position for punting.
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Looks like Raye is simply following his head coaches directions.

09-14-2000, 07:58 AM

They are all inept. If we do not clean house next season...then Carl should leave. We should have at least 3 new coaches next season. Shaw will be HC. Gun will go back to the booth as a DC...and anyone can replace Raye and stock. And we still need that elusive QB coach that actually played the position.

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Gaz · 09-14-2000, 08:05 AM

Oh my God [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img]

~speechless

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09-14-2000, 08:21 AM

This man totally incriminates himself everytime he opens his mouth. How much more stupidity do we have to go through?

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09-14-2000, 08:22 AM

More proof that this HC was a bad choice.

09-14-2000, 08:25 AM

How does that remark square with this?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Helvetica, verdana, ariel">quote:</font><HR>We're in a transition. I know what I want and I'm having to be patient and it's difficult for me at times not to be able to throw the ball out of four wides or three wides with a tight end. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

**Bwana** · 09-14-2000, 08:41 AM

JCJ -

That's just it. The man does not know what direction to take. His talk is extremely circuitous at best. How do you think the players translate what points he may try to get across in practice or game-time? Does that scare you at all?

Stuckinbama · 09-14-2000, 08:43 AM

It's Mr. Magoo leading his crew! Gun, Raye, Schotz, and Stock are the NFL's worst coaching staff, (I left out the position coaches) what does anyone expect???

Stuckinbama · 09-14-2000, 08:47 AM

Does anyone remember all the talking that Mr. Magoo was doing when he was first named head coach?? All the stuff about him being a defensive guy SOOOOO HE KNOWS what an offense can do to strike fear in a defense??? Well, I'm so sure that many defenses "fear" the Chiefs offense! ROTFLOMA!!!!

**Bwana** · 09-14-2000, 08:48 AM

Tx -

I expect Mgmt (Lamar, CP) to see what is so blatantly obvious to the avg. fan. If CP is oblivious as to what is going on, then I expect Lamar to take over. If Lamar is obliging to the theory that ignorance is bliss, then I expect the fans to stop supporting the Chiefs by not attending home games.

That's what I expect.

Logical · 09-14-2000, 08:53 AM

That would explain our inability to get one freaking first down to close out the Titans. How well would of play action worked there. Everyone expects the Chiefs to run.

milkman · 09-14-2000, 08:56 AM

Didn't these quotes come before the first game? It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few weeks. This week the Chiefs have to face Seau, who has always caused us problems in the game. The thing I have noticed that teams have learned to stuff the run this year, not just ours but everyone's. There have only people a couple of guys get real yards 2 weeks in a row, most people who had a a big week 1, failed in week 2, and vice versa. It is simple, when they are defending the run you pass the ball.

**morphius** · 09-14-2000, 09:03 AM

On the official site he says the defense is coming along fine, and is headed in the direction he wanted it to take. Weren't they ranked 24th against the run and 28th against the pass? Maybe Gun is a masochist.

He also says that Moreau is getting positive yards every time he touches the ball, and that Cloud will start this week. Both are being outrushed by Grbac.

I really think the guy is losing his mind.

Alzheimer's is a terrible disease, isn't it?

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Logical · 09-14-2000, 09:06 AM

That would explain our inability to get one freaking first down to close out the Titans. How well would of play action worked there. Everyone expects the Chiefs to run.

broncosrule · 09-14-2000, 09:31 AM

I have heard of a college coach that decided to start punting on 3rd down so they could not lose anymore yards trying to run and still have the wind at there backs before the half. Maybe Mr. Magoo will start doing that soon too. Then he will start bragging that the kicking game is getting better.

09-14-2000, 07:35 AM	Topic Starter
Cannibal Better to burn out... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bible Thumping Country Casino cash: $10010618	I copied this post from the KCSTAR, it was posted by Doug Svuba: I just got the September 10 edition of the Chiefs Report, which was written before the Titans Game. If you were disappointed in the play calling on Sunday, and you want to remain a Gun fan don't read this quote: "The bottom line is we're going to run the ball when we can, and when we are in a situation when we need to throw, we're still going to run the football." There is another quote in this article about how Gun told JR to NEVER throw the ball if they were backed up in their own territory, and just to get in good position for punting. __________ Looks like Raye is simply following his head coaches directions.
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09-14-2000, 07:58 AM	#2
htismaqe Guest Casino cash: $	They are all inept. If we do not clean house next season...then Carl should leave. We should have at least 3 new coaches next season. Shaw will be HC. Gun will go back to the booth as a DC...and anyone can replace Raye and stock. And we still need that elusive QB coach that actually played the position. ------------------ [b]~Duckaholic~[/b] [i]Shoot 'em in the lips</I>
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09-14-2000, 08:05 AM	#3
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	Oh my God [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img] ~speechless [This message has been edited by Cormac (edited 09-14-2000).]
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09-14-2000, 08:21 AM	#4
Iowanian Guest Casino cash: $	This man totally incriminates himself everytime he opens his mouth. How much more stupidity do we have to go through? ------------------ He cannot ravish, he can only woo
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09-14-2000, 08:22 AM	#5
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	More proof that this HC was a bad choice.
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09-14-2000, 08:25 AM	#6
Dr. Red Guest Casino cash: $	How does that remark square with this? <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Helvetica, verdana, ariel">quote:</font><HR>We're in a transition. I know what I want and I'm having to be patient and it's difficult for me at times not to be able to throw the ball out of four wides or three wides with a tight end. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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09-14-2000, 08:41 AM	#7
Bwana It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Billings, Montana Casino cash: $2139453647	JCJ - That's just it. The man does not know what direction to take. His talk is extremely circuitous at best. How do you think the players translate what points he may try to get across in practice or game-time? Does that scare you at all?
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09-14-2000, 08:43 AM	#8
Stuckinbama International Gun Runner Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Madison, AL USA Casino cash: $10004900	It's Mr. Magoo leading his crew! Gun, Raye, Schotz, and Stock are the NFL's worst coaching staff, (I left out the position coaches) what does anyone expect???
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09-14-2000, 08:47 AM	#9
Stuckinbama International Gun Runner Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Madison, AL USA Casino cash: $10004900	Does anyone remember all the talking that Mr. Magoo was doing when he was first named head coach?? All the stuff about him being a defensive guy SOOOOO HE KNOWS what an offense can do to strike fear in a defense??? Well, I'm so sure that many defenses "fear" the Chiefs offense! ROTFLOMA!!!!
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09-14-2000, 08:48 AM	#10
Bwana It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Billings, Montana Casino cash: $2139453647	Tx - I expect Mgmt (Lamar, CP) to see what is so blatantly obvious to the avg. fan. If CP is oblivious as to what is going on, then I expect Lamar to take over. If Lamar is obliging to the theory that ignorance is bliss, then I expect the fans to stop supporting the Chiefs by not attending home games. That's what I expect.
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09-14-2000, 08:53 AM	#11
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	That would explain our inability to get one freaking first down to close out the Titans. How well would of play action worked there. Everyone expects the Chiefs to run.
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09-14-2000, 08:56 AM	#12
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Didn't these quotes come before the first game? It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few weeks. This week the Chiefs have to face Seau, who has always caused us problems in the game. The thing I have noticed that teams have learned to stuff the run this year, not just ours but everyone's. There have only people a couple of guys get real yards 2 weeks in a row, most people who had a a big week 1, failed in week 2, and vice versa. It is simple, when they are defending the run you pass the ball.
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09-14-2000, 09:03 AM	#13
morphius World's finest morphius Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6905027	On the official site he says the defense is coming along fine, and is headed in the direction he wanted it to take. Weren't they ranked 24th against the run and 28th against the pass? Maybe Gun is a masochist. He also says that Moreau is getting positive yards every time he touches the ball, and that Cloud will start this week. Both are being outrushed by Grbac. I really think the guy is losing his mind. Alzheimer's is a terrible disease, isn't it? ------------------ This is my signature!! There are many like it but this one is mine!!
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09-14-2000, 09:06 AM	#14
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	That would explain our inability to get one freaking first down to close out the Titans. How well would of play action worked there. Everyone expects the Chiefs to run.
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09-14-2000, 09:31 AM	#15
broncosrule Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Dallas,Texas,USA Casino cash: $10004900	I have heard of a college coach that decided to start punting on 3rd down so they could not lose anymore yards trying to run and still have the wind at there backs before the half. Maybe Mr. Magoo will start doing that soon too. Then he will start bragging that the kicking game is getting better.
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