Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck.

[Hammock Parties]

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

That's not the ? just numbers from today's games.

I'll take the occasional loss of it means I also get the occasional Superbowl.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

It is quite easy to say that things need to be accomplished without Charles in the offense, but should we not use Charles to gain every possible advantage we can? Every offense has that fulcrum player. For some teams it is a QB, but in actuality how many teams can boast that? If it's a RB then fine we need to leverage that ability to the max. We are what we are. This is how we win; but to act like it is as easy as snapping your fingers, and finding a player that can replace Charles, as the focal point of the offense, is asinine.

How did I say we should not use Charles? I believe I said the opposite.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by petegz28

We will see.

No. We won't.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by aturdis

I feel the same way. I feel like you're happy with the hot load the offense blew on your back and you feel you should be thankful for it.

I never said shit about our win percentage in Florida. These are not those Chiefs. I expected to win handily. Expected Alex Smith would have had a better day too, even though I believe he is a nothing.

I don't care about his stat line. I care about what I see him do. I care that he converted only 4 of the 13 3rd downs we passed on.

Everything Alice did today if everything that was expected. Yet you guys want to pretend it'll change. What we saw today is exactly what Smith has done the last 2 year's. Forgive me if I want my QB to be capable of more than not getting in the way.

You choose to vote against him, because you would rather be happily proven wrong than step out on a ledge and hope for the best. That spells ghey to me.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by aturdis

I'll take the occasional loss of it means I also get the occasional Superbowl.

This.

It's the same old argument again:

Do you want to be respectable, or do you want to maybe suck some ass in the regular season and then light it the **** up in the play offs?

Do you have a QB who can put the team on his back and make that happen?

Again; welcome to the lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng wait.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I'm not advocating deep passes for the sake of deep passes. I am however advocating a balanced playbook that can utilize the talent beyond intermediate routes and relying on God Charles.

Let's face it:

As it stands today, if Charles should get hurt, we are SQUARELY ****ed.

Like this

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Eli has won two ****ing Super Bowls douche.

IN the mother****ing clutch against a future HOF QB also

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

Like this

Do we not rely on him? If he's out of the picture are we not ****ed?

Cat chase tail? WTF?

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Do we not rely on him? If he's out of the picture are we not ****ed?

Cat chase tail? WTF?

But you pimp high caliber QBs as the way to win. Would that not be relying on them to stay healthy as well? Not everyone can have a Rodgers or Brady. We have what we have and are forced to rely upon it. Deal with it.

[mdchiefsfan]

If Rodgers or Brady were out of the picture would they be ****ed?

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by aturdis

I feel the same way. I feel like you're happy with the hot load the offense blew on your back and you feel you should be thankful for it.

I never said shit about our win percentage in Florida. These are not those Chiefs. I expected to win handily. Expected Alex Smith would have had a better day too, even though I believe he is a nothing.

I don't care about his stat line. I care about what I see him do. I care that he converted only 4 of the 13 3rd downs we passed on.

Everything Alice did today if everything that was expected. Yet you guys want to pretend it'll change. What we saw today is exactly what Smith has done the last 2 year's. Forgive me if I want my QB to be capable of more than not getting in the way.

I have stated repeatedly that this is what Smith would do. Give us the chance to win almost every game while having slightly better #s than with San Fran because of the increased attempts.
Its not gonna change.
I do expect us to get better than we were in our 1st game, but Smith is what he is. A guy who gives us the same chance SF had in being a play away from the SB.

THE DIFFERENCE is we both know this, but even after a win, you bitch and moan non stop instead of enjoying what we knew he would bring. Accept it and move on. Youre ****ing crying doesnt change anything.
If you have to have the big #s to enjoy winning, youre gonna have to wait for Bray.
We have half last years win total already. Were you expecting a SB run, if so, I got news for ya.
When manning retires, Bray will be ready to rape the AFC.
Until then, try to enjoy a PO push, and the type of QB play that wins 26 out of 31 games. If our D is what I think they are, we could very well be in an AFCCG next season.
Our D is gonna rape. Charles is gonna rape, and AS is gonna play very efficiently.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

But you pimp high caliber QBs as the way to win. Would that not be relying on them to stay healthy as well? Not everyone can have a Rodgers or Brady. We have what we have and are forced to rely upon it. Deal with it.

?

With a good to great QB, you can loss your #1producer and still be effective.

With a below average QB, any loss can be crippling.

Regardless of which type of QB you have, if you lose your #1 QB, you are likely ****ed.

I'd say you're better off with your offense relying on the QB than the QB relying on the offense.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

But you pimp high caliber QBs as the way to win. Would that not be relying on them to stay healthy as well? Not everyone can have a Rodgers or Brady. We have what we have and are forced to rely upon it. Deal with it.

I pimp them as the way to win championships consistently, and nothing you say or bring to the table is going to change that view. It is what it is.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by aturdis

?

With a good to great QB, you can loss your #1producer and still be effective.

With a below average QB, any loss can be crippling.

Regardless of which type of QB you have, if you lose your #1 QB, you are likely ****ed.

I'd say you're better off with your offense relying on the QB than the QB relying on the offense.

Thank you.

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

I have stated repeatedly that this is what Smith would do. Give us the chance to win almost every game while having slightly better #s than with San Fran because of the increased attempts.
Its not gonna change.
I do expect us to get better than we were in our 1st game, but Smith is what he is. A guy who gives us the same chance SF had in being a play away from the SB.

THE DIFFERENCE is we both know this, but even after a win, you bitch and moan non stop instead of enjoying what we knew he would bring. Accept it and move on. Youre ****ing crying doesnt change anything.
If you have to have the big #s to enjoy winning, youre gonna have to wait for Bray.
We have half last years win total already. Were you expecting a SB run, if so, I got news for ya.
When manning retires, Bray will be ready to rape the AFC.
Until then, try to enjoy a PO push, and the type of QB play that wins 26 out of 31 games. If our D is what I think they are, we could very well be in an AFCCG next season.
Our D is gonna rape. Charles is gonna rape, and AS is gonna play very efficiently.

And every now and then he'll do something amazing just to make you think he is a complete stud, then he'll revert back to being efficient and unassuming. To his credit, he does seem to step up when the team needs it most for the most part.