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Old 05-23-2013, 01:08 PM   #1
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Are you wanting to blow these pics up to large sizes, or are you looking strictly at digital or smaller prints?

If you're not looking to blow something up, I'd look at a used high-end but older model, like a Canon 1D Mark II. Those are still outstanding cameras, but well within your price range.

houstonwhodat is absolutely correct about the lenses though. You could have the best body money can buy, but if you put cheap glass (or god forbid plastic) in front of it, it's just not going to matter. Photography is bending light, so you want a good piece of glass bending it. Everyone has their preferences; I prefer Canon glass to Nikon.
No, not going to be blowing up the pictures...just normal use. So, by getting a used, higher-end model, I'd be losing some resolution, but gaining speed? And that should be fine because I would only need the increased resolution if I was going to be blowing up the photos?
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:17 PM   #2
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No, not going to be blowing up the pictures...just normal use. So, by getting a used, higher-end model, I'd be losing some resolution, but gaining speed? And that should be fine because I would only need the increased resolution if I was going to be blowing up the photos?
Yes. The Canon 1D Mark II is an older body, but it's a rock star, IMO. It's about 8Mpx, so you're still getting images that are roughly 3264x2448. Shoots 8.5 fps, ISO extends to 3200. There is no built-in flash. If you want to use a flash, I'd buy one anyway - the built-in flashes suck.

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Old 05-24-2013, 08:31 AM   #3
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Yes. The Canon 1D Mark II is an older body, but it's a rock star, IMO. It's about 8Mpx, so you're still getting images that are roughly 3264x2448. Shoots 8.5 fps, ISO extends to 3200. There is no built-in flash. If you want to use a flash, I'd buy one anyway - the built-in flashes suck.

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Is there an older model like this that has a built-in flash? I know you said they suck, but I'm really not going to use it for anything other than family photos. Plus, my main use will be for gymnastics events where I can't use a flash anyway.
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:35 AM   #4
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Is there an older model like this that has a built-in flash? I know you said they suck, but I'm really not going to use it for anything other than family photos. Plus, my main use will be for gymnastics events where I can't use a flash anyway.
off topic, but what gym does your daughter go to? ....not so I can show up to watch while wearing a trench coat etc....
I was a gymnast for about 6 years and competed in USGA all around a 5 state region.

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Old 05-24-2013, 08:42 AM   #5
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Is there an older model like this that has a built-in flash? I know you said they suck, but I'm really not going to use it for anything other than family photos. Plus, my main use will be for gymnastics events where I can't use a flash anyway.
It was almost 10 years ago, but I shot high school and college sports of all kinds with a Canon 20D. You can find those CHEAP now, like <$200 for a body only. They're solid cameras, too, especially for what you're wanting to do. They're about the same as far as megapixels, will do roughly 5 fps.

They have a 30D, 40D, 50D and 60D, too. These are kinda the big brothers to the Rebel line.
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Old 05-23-2013, 02:11 PM   #6
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No, not going to be blowing up the pictures...just normal use. So, by getting a used, higher-end model, I'd be losing some resolution, but gaining speed? And that should be fine because I would only need the increased resolution if I was going to be blowing up the photos?

My old Nikon d-70 shoots 6 mega -pixels and the images are fantastic

I shoot around 12 mega pixels now and some of the Canons shoot 23 mega pixels.

You can't email anything that size and you'll spend your life in post production.

The high res cameras now are like the medium format film cameras of yesteryear.
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:43 PM   #7
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Ugh, so many armchair experts in here.

I would strongly suggest going with a "super-zoom" type camera instead of a DSLR. These offer amazing features and basically all manual controls you get with a DSLR without having to carry around an enormous bag and switching lenses all the time. Canon has a 80% market share for a very good reason, virtually every single product they make is superior to anything else on the market. Think about how competitive the camera market has become and for Canon to still have that kind of hold on the market only happens for very good reasons.

Also consider what your typical shooting environment will be and how many lens changes will be required. Unless it will become a major hobby for you later on, I don't see any reason as to why you would want to invest in a DSLR + glass (by far the biggest cost of any DSLR) at this point, it will just be more hassle than it's worth for you at the moment.

Save half your money and buy this:
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-PowerSho...ef=pd_sim_p_56

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Old 05-23-2013, 01:50 PM   #8
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Ugh, so many armchair experts in here.

I would strongly suggest going with a "super-zoom" type camera instead of a DSLR. These offer amazing features and basically all manual controls you get with a DSLR without having to carry around an enormous bag and switching lenses all the time. Canon has a 80% market share for a very good reason, virtually every single product they make is superior to anything else on the market. Think about how competitive the camera market has become and for Canon to still have that kind of hold on the market only happens for very good reasons.

Also consider what your typical shooting environment will be and how many lens changes will be required. Unless it will become a major hobby for you later on, I don't see any reason as to why you would want to invest in a DSLR + glass (by far the biggest cost of any DSLR) at this point, it will just be more hassle than it's worth for you at the moment.

Save half your money and buy this:
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-PowerSho...ef=pd_sim_p_56

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He said he wanted something he could grow into. That's not a P&S, if you ask me.
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I can vouch for the Nikon D5200. It is outstanding! With a 18-200mm Nikon lens, it is by far the best DSLR I've ever owned.
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Old 05-23-2013, 02:07 PM   #11
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Thanks. Looks like I need to start saving a bit more cash to get those.
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maybe look into the mirrorless? like micro four thirds or the sony nex line?

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I'm still shooting my Canon xT1, but I'd recommend anything in that line. Some people will tell you you have to go to the Mark series, but that's frankly bull. Like someone mentioned earlier, it's the glass. I've been a serious amateur (and now semi-pro) for many years and 90% of it is who's behind the eyepiece looking through what glass. The only thing I don't like about the current T series is that they use SD cards and my hands just don't fit those very well. With Canon coming out with their new T-5, look for the prices to drop on the t-3 and T-4s.
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