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Old 06-18-2007, 08:26 AM  
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Peter King-Yet again
Just read his MMQB article. He rankes all 32 starting QBs for the coming season. Naturally he has Manning and Brady #1-2, and our boy Croyle comes in dead last.
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:26 AM   #46
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I agree. The jury is still out on Croyle. From what I've seen he looks like shit, but I'm still remaining optimistic until he actually gets some good game time experience. All is not lost on Croyle.
I liked what I saw during minicamp on NFL Network. Not great, but a ton of potential. He throws harder than Green.
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:33 AM   #47
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I more concerned with his accuracy. Arm strength is overrated in my book.
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:41 AM   #48
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I more concerned with his accuracy. Arm strength is overrated in my book.
accuracy is more important but don't underestimate the impact good arm strength can have.

1. strong arm makes secondary respect the deep ball more which backs them up and opens the running game up more.

2. strong arm means the QB has an extra second to make his decision because the ball gets there faster.

3. Arm strength opens up more of the field for passes sideline to sideline as well as vertically. Which can spread the defense even more.


nothing matters if the guy can't throw the ball with decent accuracy ..... but you add arm strength TO accuracy and it can really impact your offense as a whole.
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:44 AM   #49
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If you got a weak arm, you better be deadly accurate.
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:45 AM   #50
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All very true, Mr. Laz. Your posts continue to elevate Planet discourse.

Strong arm also usually indicates strong hand and strong hand, of course, often translates into strong thumb and a young quarterback with a strong thumb has a great chance getting a ride out of town.

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Old 06-18-2007, 12:53 PM   #51
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2. strong arm means the QB has an extra second to make his decision because the ball gets there faster...

but you add arm strength TO accuracy and it can really impact your offense as a whole.
Yep.

Any QB can be accurate.

But only accurate QB's with a strong arm can really thread the needle.
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Old 06-18-2007, 01:43 PM   #52
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I know it's fun to argue about....but does ANYONE really care what Peter King has to say?
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Old 06-18-2007, 01:49 PM   #53
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Putting CROYLE last makes no difference to me.

But the "logic" of his ranking system is ridiculous.
It doesn't sound like he's using stats or anything to rank guys, he's ranking them in order of how he thinks they'll perform in 2007: "The rankings are in the order of quarterbacks who will have the best seasons in 2007 and 2007 only."

So it's not that Croyle is less proven than Jackson or Frye or anyone else, he's saying flat out that Croyle will be the league's worst QB next season.
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Old 06-18-2007, 01:51 PM   #54
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Wow. That's a load of garbage. Of course so is putting Kitna in the top 10...
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Old 06-18-2007, 03:55 PM   #55
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Everybody get ready for the "Where Did Brody Croyle Come From?" suckfest that's going to occur in about 6 months.
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Old 06-18-2007, 03:55 PM   #56
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Croyle has thrown 7 NFL passes ... all in the preseason and 3 were intercepted.

Croyle is worse than unproven at this point.
Maybe he's dead last right now, but he's also the youngest QB on the list & nobody has had a chance to see him play. So far, outside of Peter King & a few Planeteers, nobody even knows who Brobie Coil is. Give the kid a chance....
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:07 PM   #57
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:13 PM   #58
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You've got to be ****ing kidding me, Ugly Duck. Croyle was one of the quarterbacks everyone was talking about before the draft last year. He's definitely not an unknown.
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:30 PM   #59
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Maybe he's dead last right now, but he's also the youngest QB on the list & nobody has had a chance to see him play. So far, outside of Peter King & a few Planeteers, nobody even knows who Brobie Coil is. Give the kid a chance....
Croyle wasn't unknown he just had some questions that just couldn't be answered prior to the draft. Could he stay healthy? Was his college record more about a bad team than his own ability? He looked good at the Senior Bowl workouts.
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