*.* 2012 General Fitness Thread *.*

[Silock]

Originally Posted by lewdog_5

Is that a Starting Strength routine?

Sounds like Madcow 5x5.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

Am I the only person in the world that looks forward to legs? My program calls for squats every day I'm in the gym, and a heavy dose of deads. I love it.

I love legs too! I hate bench. But I guess competing in Olympic lifting for a few years and doing snatches, cleans and squatting 4x a week will do that! Injured my hip and damn do I miss training like that.

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

Am I the only person in the world that looks forward to legs? My program calls for squats every day I'm in the gym, and a heavy dose of deads. I love it.

I love doing legs and abs. It's the arms and shoulder stuff that kills me.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

Am I the only person in the world that looks forward to legs? My program calls for squats every day I'm in the gym, and a heavy dose of deads. I love it.

I hate leg day. Waaaay too much weight to push around and loading the bar is a workout on its own.

Still have to hit the legs hard though if you want to be big anywhere else.

[lewdog]

I just think that no matter what lifting exercise you chose, you have to stick with it for awhile to continue to gain strength. Too many people have exercise ADD or believe in "shocking" the muscles and change exercises too much so that progression is thrown out the window.

If I could put 60lbs on my bench in a year I would be soooo happy. If you look at adding that much weight to my bench, that is "measly" 5lbs a month. It is grinding it out, week after week to make those gains. If I trained like most people, I would sub out flat bench after only making a 5lb gain in a month but subbing it out won't let me get better at it! I think even if your main goal isn't strength, you need to keep lifts in there much longer than people do in order to make progress on the lift, which will result in changing your body more so than switching exercises. Progression in weight or reps is what makes the body change (independent of exercise chosen), not constantly changing exercises which doesn't allow you to really push the body into new strength levels and have to adapt.

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by lewdog_5

I just think that no matter what lifting exercise you chose, you have to stick with it for awhile to continue to gain strength. Too many people have exercise ADD or believe in "shocking" the muscles and change exercises too much so that progression is thrown out the window.

If I could put 60lbs on my bench in a year I would be soooo happy. If you look at adding that much weight to my bench, that is "measly" 5lbs a month. It is grinding it out, week after week to make those gains. If I trained like most people, I would sub out flat bench after only making a 5lb gain in a month but subbing it out won't let me get better at it! I think even if your main goal isn't strength, you need to keep lifts in there much longer than people do in order to make progress on the lift, which will result in changing your body more so than switching exercises. Progression in weight or reps is what makes the body change (independent of exercise chosen), not constantly changing exercises which doesn't allow you to really push the body into new strength levels and have to adapt.

You're clearly not a fan of Crossfit.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by NewChief

You're clearly not a fan of Crossfit.

Haha generally no. But it does have a somewhat different goal and I have seen some very good Crossfit places that do their ever changing workouts but also keep in progression on things like squats and deads. As long as a Crossfit program has consistent work with main lifts, I don't see a problem with their ever changing exercises. Not many run their Crossfit programs like this but I have seen a few and I totally don't hate Crossfit when it is run like that.

[ChiefsOne]

Originally Posted by NewChief

You're clearly not a fan of Crossfit.

I do Crossfit 2-3 days a week and a regular workout out 1-2 of the other days. It's a good balance, I get both the strength and cardio! I only workout 1 time a day, but some of the Crossfit guys that are the best goes in the morning for the strength workouts and do the CF workout later in the day. There are a few that are phenomenal.

The best program I have ever been around!

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by lewdog_5

I just think that no matter what lifting exercise you chose, you have to stick with it for awhile to continue to gain strength. Too many people have exercise ADD or believe in "shocking" the muscles and change exercises too much so that progression is thrown out the window.

If I could put 60lbs on my bench in a year I would be soooo happy. If you look at adding that much weight to my bench, that is "measly" 5lbs a month. It is grinding it out, week after week to make those gains. If I trained like most people, I would sub out flat bench after only making a 5lb gain in a month but subbing it out won't let me get better at it! I think even if your main goal isn't strength, you need to keep lifts in there much longer than people do in order to make progress on the lift, which will result in changing your body more so than switching exercises. Progression in weight or reps is what makes the body change (independent of exercise chosen), not constantly changing exercises which doesn't allow you to really push the body into new strength levels and have to adapt.

I know a competitive bb'er that said he would change up everything each time he came in. Sets, reps, excercise, rest, etc... I gave it a shot for about 2 weeks and hated it. I'm like you in that I enjoy the trying to progress on the same lifts so I change it up every 4-6 weeks.

[TheGuardian]

For the longest I pulled and squatted heavy in the same workout. I have no idea why some pussies say they can't do it. I'm hardly the epitome of strength but doing 600 squats and 600 deads in the same workout isn't a big deal. If Andy Bolton can squat 800 and pull 1000 pound block deads in the same session surely everyone else can do it too.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

For the longest I pulled and squatted heavy in the same workout. I have no idea why some pussies say they can't do it. I'm hardly the epitome of strength but doing 600 squats and 600 deads in the same workout isn't a big deal. If Andy Bolton can squat 800 and pull 1000 pound block deads in the same session surely everyone else can do it too.

"I'm hardly the epitome of strength"

and

"doing 600 squats and 600 deads"


These do not belong in the same sentence! Incredible stuff man.

But I agree. The body can be conditioned to do most things. I never though sqautting heavy 4x week for Olympic lifting was possible or made sense. But boy did my body condition itself to this workload and much faster than I expected.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by lewdog_5

"I'm hardly the epitome of strength"

and

"doing 600 squats and 600 deads"


These do not belong in the same sentence! Incredible stuff man.

It's all about context. I'm friends with guys with 900 pound deadlifts and 800 pound raw squats. So I never feel strong. Ever.

I do, too, but I'd rather eat them with lots of beer and as much apple pie as I could shove down my throat

Oh me too. And I do. Just not very often anymore.

[Buck]

Does anyone use or have used Kettlebells before?

I'm looking for something I can do at home.

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by Buck

Does anyone use or have used Kettlebells before?

I'm looking for something I can do at home.

I use them a lot. If you can take a few seminars with an RKC instructor and get your form down, then there nothing wrong with doing them at home, though good bells are expensive. I don't recommend just jumping into them self taught due to the compound, dynamic nature of the movements posing a high risk of injury (assuming that you actually start throwing around some real weight. A lot of the BS kettlebell infomIercials have people using such light weight that its useless form of training).

[Kyle DeLexus]

talk to newphin.

He also will recommend going to a instructional class to learn how to properly use them.