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Old 11-29-2012, 05:57 PM   #1
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I've looked at it. Unfortunately, I could buy a Micro Terror for that kind of coin.

I've got to go a cheaper route right now but thanks for the suggestion all the same.
http://www.native-instruments.com/#/...-rig-5-player/

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http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PodHD/

I'd go for a POD HD. You can record both guitar and bass plus it comes with a USB editor, which is amazingly helpful.

No offense to DW but I think the Orange Tiny Terror is garbage. I'd purchase a high quality active direct box, like a Radial JV48, record all your guitars and basses directly into your Daw, then insert the POD Pro on the group busses in your DAW.

That way, you can edit the guitar and bass tones during mixing, instead of being locked into something that doesn't work. Good luck!
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:13 PM   #2
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http://www.native-instruments.com/#/...-rig-5-player/

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http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PodHD/

I'd go for a POD HD. You can record both guitar and bass plus it comes with a USB editor, which is amazingly helpful.

No offense to DW but I think the Orange Tiny Terror is garbage. I'd purchase a high quality active direct box, like a Radial JV48, record all your guitars and basses directly into your Daw, then insert the POD Pro on the group busses in your DAW.

That way, you can edit the guitar and bass tones during mixing, instead of being locked into something that doesn't work. Good luck!
I'll have to check that out. Thanks!
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:23 PM   #3
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http://www.native-instruments.com/#/...-rig-5-player/

Free player

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PodHD/

I'd go for a POD HD. You can record both guitar and bass plus it comes with a USB editor, which is amazingly helpful.

No offense to DW but I think the Orange Tiny Terror is garbage. I'd purchase a high quality active direct box, like a Radial JV48, record all your guitars and basses directly into your Daw, then insert the POD Pro on the group busses in your DAW.

That way, you can edit the guitar and bass tones during mixing, instead of being locked into something that doesn't work. Good luck!
no offense taken; I know jackshit about little amps.

This is the first time I've had any lengthy experience with any, and we've been using like 5-watt Matchless, Badkat, Egnator, and Fuchs heads that they have at the studio. The Egnator or whatever sounds like poo to me...

Edit : I like the sound of big Oranges though, and he wanted 'small quiet and cheap so that was my suggestion, based on his criteria, not any experience I've ever had with a TT.

Double Edit : with the budget it sounds like you're working with, I'll second the POD suggestion. Plethora of workable tones in all kinds of configurations you can set yourself at a decent price.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:00 PM   #4
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no offense taken; I know jackshit about little amps.

This is the first time I've had any lengthy experience with any, and we've been using like 5-watt Matchless, Badkat, Egnator, and Fuchs heads that they have at the studio. The Egnator or whatever sounds like poo to me...
Small 5 watt and 15 watt amps that are "designed" to sound like 100 watt amps suck ass.

First off the designs don't allow for a large output transformer or large tubes. Outside of an AC30 (Matchless, Bruno - all AC30 clones), EL84 based amps sound like shit. It's just impossible to make a 5 watt transformer sound like a 100 watt transformer.

Personally, I think they're a waste of money. There are far more elegant solutions to miking up a cab, including sound proofing and treating a closet, isolation cabinets like those offered by James Demeter, Randall, Silent Sister, etc., THD hotplate or just running a 100 watt head straight to a cabinet for a load with the master volume set to zero, then sending the effects loop signal directly to a DAW for use with cabinet sims in Guitar Rig, ReCabinet, Red Wirez.

They're a marketing gimmick.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:00 AM   #5
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Small 5 watt and 15 watt amps that are "designed" to sound like 100 watt amps suck ass.

First off the designs don't allow for a large output transformer or large tubes. Outside of an AC30 (Matchless, Bruno - all AC30 clones), EL84 based amps sound like shit. It's just impossible to make a 5 watt transformer sound like a 100 watt transformer.

Personally, I think they're a waste of money. There are far more elegant solutions to miking up a cab, including sound proofing and treating a closet, isolation cabinets like those offered by James Demeter, Randall, Silent Sister, etc., THD hotplate or just running a 100 watt head straight to a cabinet for a load with the master volume set to zero, then sending the effects loop signal directly to a DAW for use with cabinet sims in Guitar Rig, ReCabinet, Red Wirez.

They're a marketing gimmick.
I've played some of the Orange lunchbox amps at the shop and while they may not be ideal, they sure as hell sound better than my Crate on 3 volume. My problem is that I've got a 110-pound monster that I originally got 20 years ago for gigging. It's worthless for recording.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:15 AM   #6
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I hate to bump an old thread but I wanted to update my situation and let people know what I did.

I got a Harman Lexicon Alpha DAW for Christmas. It was a gift but I found them on Amazon for about $50, so I'm sure that's where she got it. It came with Steinberg CuBase LE 5 (mixing and recording software).

I downloaded some free amp sims and cabinet impulses and I'm SUPER impressed so far.

In fact, I'm using CuBase with an Orange amp head and Celstion 4x12 cabinet as my PRACTICE AMP to just sit here and play.

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Small 5 watt and 15 watt amps that are "designed" to sound like 100 watt amps suck ass.

First off the designs don't allow for a large output transformer or large tubes. Outside of an AC30 (Matchless, Bruno - all AC30 clones), EL84 based amps sound like shit. It's just impossible to make a 5 watt transformer sound like a 100 watt transformer.

Personally, I think they're a waste of money. There are far more elegant solutions to miking up a cab, including sound proofing and treating a closet, isolation cabinets like those offered by James Demeter, Randall, Silent Sister, etc., THD hotplate or just running a 100 watt head straight to a cabinet for a load with the master volume set to zero, then sending the effects loop signal directly to a DAW for use with cabinet sims in Guitar Rig, ReCabinet, Red Wirez.

They're a marketing gimmick.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:49 PM   #7
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I hate to bump an old thread but I wanted to update my situation and let people know what I did.

I got a Harman Lexicon Alpha DAW for Christmas. It was a gift but I found them on Amazon for about $50, so I'm sure that's where she got it. It came with Steinberg CuBase LE 5 (mixing and recording software).

I downloaded some free amp sims and cabinet impulses and I'm SUPER impressed so far.

In fact, I'm using CuBase with an Orange amp head and Celstion 4x12 cabinet as my PRACTICE AMP to just sit here and play.
Awesome, Dude! Congrats! Shoot me a PM anytime if you have questions about Cubase, drum programs, etc. Enjoy!
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Awesome, Dude! Congrats! Shoot me a PM anytime if you have questions about Cubase, drum programs, etc. Enjoy!
Necro bump again.

I traded some of my gear that I never use anymore for a Zoom C5.1t ASIO unit.

It's basically the same as the Lexicon Alpha but also includes 5 programmable foot switches and a programmable expression pedal.

So now I not only have the ability to sim amps and cabinets, I can sim stomp boxes and pedal effects too.

So awesome.
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