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Old 06-05-2013, 06:26 PM  
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Teicher:Prodded by Andy Reid, Chiefs QB Alex Smith learning to be more aggressive

Prodded by Andy Reid, Chiefs QB Alex Smith learning to be more aggressive
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
One of the qualities the Chiefs like in new quarterback Alex Smith is his recent history with few turnovers. Smith threw just 10 interceptions in his last 25 games for the San Francisco 49ers, a stat that looks extremely pretty in Kansas City after Chiefs quarterbacks committed 27 turnovers last season.

Smith’s low turnover rate was due at least in part by his reluctance to throw the ball down the field. He was referred to by frustrated 49ers fans as Captain Checkdown for his habit of throwing shorter patterns to receivers for shorter gains.

Smith is in the process of being reprogrammed by Andy Reid, his new coach. Reid doesn’t want to turn Smith into a turnover machine but wants him to be more aggressive, particularly during offseason practice.

“You want to get a feel for the offense now, particularly when you’re new at it (and) if there are close throws, challenge it, see what you can get away with,” Reid said. “If it ends up being an interception, OK, it’s an interception. You learn from it. These are smart guys so they learn from it and once they get into the season, they’re not experimenting with it on game day and they know what they can get away with and know what they can’t.

“It’s a new offense. I would tell any quarterback that comes in new that that’s what you need to do. I’ve told them all that. Go ahead and take your shots and see what you can get away with, within reason. But if it’s a close throw, there are going to be a few of those in the National Football League on game day so you need to know what you can get away with on each route.”

Smith and the other Chiefs quarterbacks were rewarded with several long completions in Wednesday’s practice. Smith had three such plays, including two to Jon Baldwin, while Tyler Bray and Ricky Stanzi had one apiece.

Wednesday’s barrage of big passing plays isn’t necessarily an indication the deep ball is back in the Chiefs’ offense. But since such plays have been scarce for the Chiefs in each of the past two seasons, they’re taking it as an encouraging sign.

“We’re just kind of continuing to press to see what we can do … finding out what we’re capable of,” Smith said. “You’ve got to find that out at some point. This is what the practice field is for.”

Smith was the NFL’s highest-rated passer last season before he was injured, missed a start and then replaced by Colin Kaepernick as San Francisco’s starting quarterback. Smith was completing more than 70 percent of his passes, a high rate, and had just five interceptions.

Still, he had just 30 touchdown passes in his final 25 starts for the 49ers. While that’s a good number as a ratio with his 10 interceptions, it still represents a shortage of big plays.

Smith won’t turn into a mad bomber overnight, if he ever does.

“You want to stay aggressive,” Smith said. “But in the end I’m always trying to make the right read and throw where the defense is telling me to throw. You don’t come out here and predetermine anything, like ‘Oh, I’m going to chuck it deep on this play.’ I’m constantly trying to just trust my eyes and what I’m seeing out there, trust my reads and what I’ve prepared for and then come out here and throw good balls.”

For his part, Reid might be OK with that. But for now, when an interception costs the Chiefs nothing, he would prefer Smith be more of a gambler.

“Everybody is all on board (with Smith),” Reid said. “He’s a good football player. He’s showing that (along with) good leadership. I’m asking him to do a ton of things. He’s handling it. We’ve had an interception here or there but that’s all part of this thing. You’ve got to find out about the offense and you can’t do it with your hands in your pocket. You’ve got to go out and try things and experiment. That’s what he’s doing now.

“It’s just good stuff. He’s staying aggressive with the ball, and I appreciate that.”

The final offseason practice is today. The Chiefs won’t get together again as a group until training camp begins in July at Missouri Western State University.

Smith indicated he may try to throw to some Chiefs receivers during their downtime in an effort to stay sharp.

“We’re heads and shoulder above where we were a couple of months ago,” he said. “But that’s a never-ending thing. I don’t think it’s something like, ‘We’ve got a good feel for each other so we don’t need to work anymore.’ You’re constantly working at it. This is our job, this is our craft. Every single day, it’s coming out here and pushing to get better.”
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:03 PM   #1051
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Matt Cassel didn't even get a chance to play until 2008 and had as good of a year as Alex ever has.

Eerily similar.

Almost like it's fate.
The difference is that Matt Cassel had one good season in KC and immediately descended into a downward spiral, never to recover.

Once Alex Smith had a decent line, average to above average play calling and coaching, his game has only ascended.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:03 PM   #1052
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:07 PM   #1053
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The difference is that Matt Cassel had one good season in KC and immediately descended into a downward spiral, never to recover.

Once Alex Smith had a decent line, average to above average play calling and coaching, his game has only ascended.
When Cassel and Alex had good teams around them, they won games.

When they didn't, they did not.

Very similar in that regard.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:08 PM   #1054
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Homer? No. I couldn't care less if we were discussing the starting QB of the Arizona Cardinals.

You have continually misrepresented stats while conveniently avoid reporting others from your precious PFF because it doesn't fit your false narrative.

With Geno Smith failing like a lead brick I the draft, you've had no other way to call attention to yourself, so you've created this nonsensical false narrative about Alex Smith.

But hey, at least we're discussing football, so I'll give you credit in that regard.
The facts are the facts, Dane-o.

When we lose games this year because Alex:

1. Cannot throw the ball down the field.

2. Sucks on third down.

3. Takes too many sacks.

I am going to throw it back in your ****ing face and laugh.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:09 PM   #1055
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Please name Smith's wide receivers in San Fran. Then name the wide receivers in Green Bay and tell me they're equal.

Thanks in advance.
Please name the RB or TE in Green Bay

and then name the RB and TE in San Fran.

and tell me they're equal. Thanks
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:09 PM   #1056
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The difference is that Matt Cassel had one good season in KC and immediately descended into a downward spiral, never to recover.

Once Alex Smith had a decent line, average to above average play calling and coaching, his game has only ascended.
Every excuse you have used in regards to Alex Smith is the same EXACT shit that was said about Cassel when we traded for him.
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Every excuse you have used in regards to Alex Smith is the same EXACT shit that was said about Cassel when we traded for him.
It's really scary.

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Old 06-27-2013, 09:13 PM   #1058
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When Cassel and Alex had good teams around them, they won games.

When they didn't, they did not.

Very similar in that regard.
Again, this is a false narrative.

Matt Cassel had more offensive weapons in 2012 than Smith, yet he was awful. Actually, awful doesn't even begin to describe it.

In 2011, before the injury to Charles, the Chiefs were awful as well. The blame didn't lie with the loss of Moeaki, it was due to the fact that Cassel was a talentless hack.
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49ers offensive line decent

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that o-line is top 3 maybe even the best in the league. They have 3 first round picks and FOUR pro bowlers on that starting line. And they're decent. Right cause its the talent around Alex Smith's fault always and not his.

Our offensive line is ****ing terrible and inexperienced compared to theirs and if he took that many sacks behind that line, hes going to take a **** load behind the inexperienced line we put out there this year
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When Cassel and Alex had good teams around them, they won games.

When they didn't, they did not.

Very similar in that regard.
That's because they don't have an ability level that can carry their respective team and will it to victory.
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And yet that "talentless hack" was able to fool people in 2010. With less talent. The Chiefs literally had complete dogshit at WR that year beyond Bowe.

So it has been with Alex Smith.

He's fooled you.
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49ers offensive line decent

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that o-line is top 3 maybe even the best in the league. They have 3 first round picks and FOUR pro bowlers on that starting line. And they're decent. Right cause its the talent around Alex Smith's fault always and not his.

Our offensive line is ****ing terrible and inexperienced compared to theirs and if he took that many sacks behind that line, hes going to take a **** load behind the inexperienced line we put out there this year
Like how Cassel was exempt from his mistakes also
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Every excuse you have used in regards to Alex Smith is the same EXACT shit that was said about Cassel when we traded for him.
Number one, I'm not making excuses for anyone. I'm pointing out the glaring flaws in GoChiefs false narrative.

Number two, the situations are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

Different players, different coaches, different teams, different abilities.
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Every excuse you have used in regards to Alex Smith is the same EXACT shit that was said about Cassel when we traded for him.
There are no excuses.

You are guys are complaining about a guy who has yet to take a snap for the Chiefs.

Let him be a completely worthless QB then bitch all you want and run him outta town. That's fair. But damn let do dude play a down even if only in pre-season.

The fact is if you look at the last 3 years, AS has been a pretty damn serviceable QB in the NFL.

The Chiefs got the best available QB they could get, you may not like what the gave up for him. That does not mean that he can't be productive.
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And yet that "talentless hack" was able to fool people in 2010. With less talent. The Chiefs literally had complete dogshit at WR that year beyond Bowe.

So it has been with Alex Smith.

He's fooled you.
He hasn't fooled me. I know who he is as a player.

You don't. You make excuses for every positive attribute because it doesn't fit your false narrative.
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