Daytona 500 is Sunday, who wins ? - Page 6

ROYC75 · 02-14-2007, 11:07 AM

I know there are many here who can't stand NASCAR, so be it, haters need not reply.

On a side note, looks like Jr and mommy E are still at ends with each other. She is stubborn enough to let him walk, Dale Sr. gotta be turning over in his grave.

htismaqe · 02-15-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by recxjake

I don't like you, you don't like me.... lets just not talk... thanks.

I never said I don't like you.

But I, along with alot of people here, have a problem with spammers and trolls.

recxjake · 02-15-2007, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I never said I don't like you.

But I, along with alot of people here, have a problem with spammers and trolls.

One thing... is this thread not about the Daytona 500?! Waltrip is in the middle of the biggest scandal that has ever hit the sport..... Posting info on it just fine.

htismaqe · 02-15-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by recxjake

One thing... is this thread not about the Daytona 500?! Waltrip is in the middle of the biggest scandal that has ever hit the sport..... Posting info on it just fine.

The same info over and over.

Don't try to pretend that you don't have an ulterior motive.

**HemiEd** · 02-15-2007, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by recxjake

One thing... is this thread not about the Daytona 500?! Waltrip is in the middle of the biggest scandal that has ever hit the sport..... Posting info on it just fine.

Maybe in your lifetime, but it isn't even in the top 5 scandals that ever hit the sport.

cadmonkey · 02-15-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

OK, fuel additive. That could be a lot of things.

What I heard was the his team spread Sterno over the intake manifold to keep it hot. The hot it was the better it worked. So the Sterno would catch fire (sort of) and keep the manifold at an extremely high temperature.

Just what I heard.

**HemiEd** · 02-15-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cadmonkey

What I heard was the his team spread Sterno over the intake manifold to keep it hot. The hot it was the better it worked. So the Sterno would catch fire (sort of) and keep the manifold at an extremely high temperature.

Just what I heard.

Now that kind of fits with some of the information I heard the other day.

Normally you would want the intake cold to make the mixture more dense.
However, they are running restrictor plates, so there is only so much fuel and maybe they found better atomization when hot.

**HemiEd** · 02-15-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by recxjake

"Michael Waltrip apologized Thursday for his team's role in NASCAR's biggest cheating scandal"

Makes good reading, don't it?

**HemiEd** · 02-15-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by recxjake

"Michael Waltrip apologized Thursday for his team's role in NASCAR's biggest cheating scandal"

I would rate the scandal that had Richard Petty quit the sport a lot higher.

cadmonkey · 02-15-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Now that kind of fits with some of the information I heard the other day.

Normally you would want the intake cold to make the mixture more dense.
However, they are running restrictor plates, so there is only so much fuel and maybe they found better atomization when hot.

Thats what I was thinking as well, but was curious as to if they would take that kind of risk and overheating the engine all together.

**HemiEd** · 02-15-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by recxjake

Are you still looking at the new Silverado?

I sure am. But I am going to wait until supply catches up with demand a little more. They are in short supply and still very expensive for what I want. We are a Delphi supplier, so I can get the deal you kindly offered later I think.

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do tell.

The Short story: NASCAR did not like the domination that the Hemi was showing. It made for very one sided racing. They outlawed the 426 Hemi.
The King protested and built Drag Car, 65 Barracuda IIRC, with a Hemi. I am pretty sure the year was 65/66.

Later, NASCAR just restricted the size of the carb on the Hemi to 500 cfm, the other cars had something like 1000 cfm.

cadmonkey · 02-15-2007, 02:52 PM

Well the Waltrip contovercy can end.....he just raced his way into the 500 by finishing well in the Duel 120s

**HemiEd** · 02-15-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by recxjake

do tell.

I just found this, a lot different than I remembered it.

However, Bill France was not happy. Before the final race in 1964, he made an announcement that chilled the Chrysler camp. In one sweep, he eliminated the Hemi engine from competition, along with the newly introduced Ford 427 "hi- riser." Ford was pleased. Chrysler was not.

Ten days later, Ronnie Householder issued a statement that no Chrysler supported teams were going to participate in any NASCAR event under the current dictated rules. He blasted NASCAR, at times appearing furious with the decision handed down by France. It had started when Ford officials had been making it known that if NASCAR did not declare the Hemi engine illegal as a non production item, they would boycott the 1965 season. Their suspicions about the Hemi were confirmed in their mind with aerodynamics having nothing at all to do with the winning ways for Chrysler.

When France made his decision to ban the Hemi, Householder called Ford and NASCAR to task. Without a doubt, the threat of a boycott from Ford prompted Bill France to write the Hemi out. Yet, he did not specifically refer to the Chevrolet 427 "porcupine" engine, encouraging the GM teams that it would be welcomed on NASCAR tracks. Certainly, he had looked the other way in 1963 when the mystery Chevrolet engine appeared. So the lines were drawn. Chrysler turned to other events, USAC and drag racing.

It is unfortunate that the United States Auto Club didn't tried harder. They were a great racing sanctioning body whose rules were applied fairly across the board while encouraging racing development. They were also better than NASCAR because they were not a dictatorship style of management.

The decision by Chrysler not to race in the 1965 NASCAR season was a setback for the Pettys. Richard had been eager to defend his title. The new Plymouth Satellite was essentially the same car as the 1964 Belvedere. Along the way, the techniques for utilizing all that the Hemi engine had to give were ready for application to the new 1965 cars. Richard accepted the decision by Chrysler. After all, at that point, he was on Chrysler's payroll. How he or any of the Petty clan felt about the loss of their independence has never been talked about. However, I am certain that they did not easily accept being ruled by outside forces. Steps were taken to insure that they would never have to follow the lead of any influence other than their own in the future.

Richard, Maurice and Lee went drag racing in 1965! Supplied with a new Plymouth Barracuda fastback, Maurice set out to make it a drag racer to be the one to beat. He succeeded. The highly modified Plymouth, called 43 Jr., had a 426 Hemi that was warmed over by Maurice and Dale Inman. Richard made appearances in events all over the Southeastern United States. In every place that he ran, it was standing room only. Not quite satisfied with the first Barracuda, Maurice built another one. This one had an altered wheelbase, and different suspension modifications. It too, had a 426 Hemi, that was modified even more than the first. The torqueflite was replaced with a 4 speed manual transmission. This Petty Blue Plymouth was named "Outlawed." The first run out of the box was at 140 miles an hour in the 1/4 mile. Over the course of the spring and summer of 1965, Richard lost only 6 events between the two Barracuda cars.

NASCAR did not fare well with the Chrysler teams sitting out. Even though Bill France had set rules that clearly favored Chevrolet and the 427 Mark IV engine, GM sat tight on its racing ban observance. Ford and Mercury were the only cars out on the circuit. The public stayed home in droves. Financially, it drove NASCAR into dire straits.

cadmonkey · 02-15-2007, 03:04 PM

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he wrecked Dale Jr early... He's gonna get his thrown around on Sunday.... Waltrip is lucky that 78 year old guy didn't beat him out... that would have capped his week off pretty well!

that would have been a kick in the balls. His brother Darrel would have laughed his ass off though.

LocoChiefsFan · 02-15-2007, 06:32 PM

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I'll be pulling for Tony Stewart. As far as the Dale Jr situation, I'd like to see him walk. Who would DEI hang their hat on if he left? Michael ****ing Waltrip?

It's also hilarious to see people living in the midwest calling out NASCAR for being redneck. If you live in this area of the country you're part redneck whether you like it or not.

Michael Waltrip left DEI a year ago. He's in a Toyota now. I love how people stereotype Nascar fans and they probably have never been to a race. Trust me, Nascar is big business and it reflects in the ticket prices, which in turn translates to a whole different crowd.

ROYC75 · 02-15-2007, 08:17 PM

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Michael Waltrip left DEI a year ago. He's in a Toyota now. I love how people stereotype Nascar fans and they probably have never been to a race. Trust me, Nascar is big business and it reflects in the ticket prices, which in turn translates to a whole different crowd.

They are just pissed off because some( actually alot of ) people really enjoy racing and they don't. To each his / her own...........

I can't stand hockey or the Lakers.........

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