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View Poll Results: What % do you think it's likely we keep Hali?
100% 5 5.56%
90% 3 3.33%
80% 2 2.22%
70% 13 14.44%
60% 11 12.22%
50% 12 13.33%
40% 14 15.56%
30% 13 14.44%
20% 6 6.67%
10% 4 4.44%
0% 4 4.44%
Direckshun's whore of a mother 3 3.33%
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Old 11-03-2014, 10:37 PM  
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Late night bullshit: the great Tamba Hali.

Most recently, Dane and BossChief have made impassioned arguments that they believe Hali is open to restructuring so that he remains a Chief this offseason.

I don't know how likely that is, as is the case with most of you, because of his cap number, the incoming payday for Mr. Houston, and the development of Dee Ford, who we spent a 1st on last year.

Nonetheless, there's no question he's an invaluable part of the locker room and on field production, and he's a ****ing passrusher. One of the best this franchise has seen, which is saying something considering this franchise has reliably churned out excellent passrushers over the years.

What percentage do you think it is likely that Hali stays a Chief this offseason?

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Old 11-04-2014, 11:45 AM   #16
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I said 60%, but I wouldn't bring him back. Better to let him go a year too early than a year too late.
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Old 11-04-2014, 11:48 AM   #17
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Dline in pass situations: Hali,Ford,Poe,Houston

If Bailey keeps improving: Hali,Ford,Bailey,Houston


it would give Poe some snaps off that way too
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Old 11-04-2014, 12:21 PM   #18
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He's probably gone; and I guess we'll just have to see if Dee Ford can run towards ball carriers instead of away from them.

Sucks, but that's the reality. He's a guy that I think will probably play a few more seasons at a reasonably high level, just not for the money the Chiefs will want to give him.
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Old 11-04-2014, 12:22 PM   #19
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Dline in pass situations: Hali,Ford,Poe,Houston

If Bailey keeps improving: Hali,Ford,Bailey,Houston


it would give Poe some snaps off that way too
Switching to a 43 base?
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Old 11-04-2014, 02:29 PM   #20
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No way I'd line Ford up inside. That negates his only specialty.
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Old 11-04-2014, 02:32 PM   #21
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No way I'd line Ford up inside. That negates his only specialty.
so far Ford's best move has been the bull rush

besides on passing downs Hali splits out wider making plenty of room for Ford's quick first step

not to mention that Hali and Ford could runs some seriously effective stunts
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Old 11-04-2014, 02:33 PM   #22
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This is Hali's last contract before life after football. In my mind, he has to take the money. There are going to be teams out there that will throw more money at him than he's probably worth to get him to jump ship. If that happens, I wont blame him at all.

I think the only way he restructures to stay here is a playoff win. Some hard evidence that the team is moving forward, REALLY moving forward. I think if we win a playoff game, he would restructure and stay on.

If we don't make the playoffs, or we're another one and done, he takes the payoff and leaves.

The Houston deal is going to force Tamba Hali out in all likelihood.
It'll be Kneel Smith all over again...
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His short arams and slight frame would get eaten up inside by guards and centers
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Old 11-04-2014, 02:36 PM   #24
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so far Ford's best move has been the bull rush

besides on passing downs Hali splits out wider making plenty of room for Ford's quick first step

not to mention that Hali and Ford could runs some seriously effective stunts

But his bull rush only works because he threatens with the speed rush.

Hali could legitimately bull rush a guard into the QBs lap.
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Unless the Chiefs decide they like wasting 1st round picks on backups and that only tagging Houston is the best route to take then I put Hali being on the Chiefs in 2015 at 0.000000001%.
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But his bull rush only works because he threatens with the speed rush.

Hali could legitimately bull rush a guard into the QBs lap.
I believe Sutton already used Ford inside on passing downs earlier this year.

Didn't Ford get his first sack during that game?
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His short arams and slight frame would get eaten up inside by guards and centers
You do know that typically OT's have long arms right?
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You do know that typically OT's have long arms right?
Sure.
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You do know that typically OT's have long arms right?
exactly

when it comes to arm length he measures up better to OGs than OT's

this is about passing downs

Where Ford would get hurt is being inside on a run down.

You line up Hali,Ford,Bailey,Houston and you will go with mobility/speed. Running twists and stunts to force the OTs to pass their guy off and still have the quickness to handle the guy coming around. Not many OTs can do that.

Let's see an OT across from Ford and Hali deal with them moving around.
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I believe Sutton already used Ford inside on passing downs earlier this year.



Didn't Ford get his first sack during that game?

It's definitely possible.

I'm just saying that isn't putting our guy in the best position to succeed, IMO. He's yet to show an effective swim move or bull rush to be moved inside. He has shown an insane first step, though, which is better served on the outside over the tackle.

Say, for instance, the other team runs an inside draw. They have a pretty good chance of being able to move Ford wherever they want. Can't say the same for Hali.
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