Chiefs Alex Smith Traded to Chiefs - Page 362

Deberg_1990 · 02-27-2013, 10:59 AM

Well, it looks like the deal is done.

https://twitter.com/intent/user?scre...w_p=tweetembed

Jay Glazer @JayGlazer
49ers have completed a trade with the Chiefs for Alex Smith, tho can't be official til March 12. Chiefs really made a commitment to Smith

Jay Glazer @JayGlazer
Deal has been agreed upon between Chiefs and 49ers. Compensation unclear but I'm told again Chiefs have made a clear commitment to Smith.

**Baby Lee** · 08-26-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

well isn't that the most convenient excuse ever....also amazing how you know with perfect knowledge when there are and aren't QBs 'good enough' for the mighty Chiefs...

the bullshit is thick, the denial thicker

we've made teh reeruned choice to spend decades focusing on backup and cast off QBs, and Chiefs fans have spent the same time frame saying the same stupid lies..."not good enough"...."too risky"

we've never even been able to get lucky on a QB, because we've never even tried...but hey, since you guys know with perfect knowledge (seriously, how do y'all do that?) that no QB in this draft was good enough for the worst team in the league....could you tell us when one that is good enough will arrive?

Drafts - 1999-2006

1999
5 QBs gone before KC drafts
Couch
McNabb
Akili
Culpepper
McNown
after
Shaun King
Brock Huard
Joe Germaine
Aaron Brooks
Kevin Daft
Michael Bishop
Chris Greisen
Scott Covington

2000
before
Chad Pennington
after
Giovanni Carmazzi
Chris Redman
Tee Martin
Marc Bulger
Spergon Wynn
Tom Brady
Todd Husak
JaJuan Seider
Tim Rattay
Jarius Jackson
Joe Hamilton

We get Trent Green

2001
before
Vick
Brees
Quincy Carter
Marques Tuiasosopo
after
Chris Weinke
Sage Rosenfels
esse Palmer
Mike McMahon
A.J. Feeley
Josh Booty
Josh Huepel

2002
before
Carr
Harrington
Patrick Ramsey
after
Josh McCown
Garrard
Rohan Davey
Randy Fasani
Kurt Kittnes
Brandon Doman
Craig Nall
J.T. O'Sullivan
Steve Bellisari
Seth Burford
Jeff Kelly
Wes Pate

2003
before
Palmer
Leftwich
Boller
Grossman
after
Dave Ragone
Chris Simms
Seneca Wallce
David St. Pierre
Drew Henson
Brooks Bollinger
Kliff Kingsbury
Gibran Hamdan
Ken Dorsey

2004
before
Eli
Rivers
Roethlisberger
Losman
after
Schaub
McCown
Craig Kenzel
Andy Hall
Josh Harris
Jim Sorgi
Jeff Smoker
John Navarre
Cody Pickett
Matt Mauck
B.J. Symons
Bradlee Van Pelt

2005
before
Alex Smith
after
Rodgers
Campbell
Charlie Frye
Andrew Walter
David Greene
Orton
Stefan Lefors
Dan Orlovsky
Adrian McPherson
Derek Anderson
James Kilian
Matt Cassel
Ryan Fitzpatrick

2006
before
Young
Leinart
Cutler
after
Kellen Clemons
Tarvaris
Charlie Whitehurst
KAN - picks Croyle
Brad Smith
Ingle Martin
Omar Jacobs
Reggie McNeal
Gradkowski
D.J. Shockley

Moving up would have reasonable for Culpepper or Pennington

Missed on
Bulger
Brady
Garrard
maybe Schaub
DEFINITELY Rodgers
or
Orton

One guy we missed on and could reasonably have acquired with any playoff success.

If anyone else wants to document 2007-2013, my fingers are tired.

**Mav** · 08-26-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Ahh Red Chum. Makes perfect sense now.

I really do get amused when people don't take the time to understand one, how cut throat the new York media is, and two don't realize just how bad of shape the New York Jets franchise is.

Yeah, your picture was funny, but what he said is true. You are talking about a guy who showed true professionalism when he stomped out of the green room, and had to be begged by his agent to go back the next night, then fired his agent, and was responding to criticisms about him on twitter.

hes a mark dude.

The faster he gets out of New York, the better his pro career is going to be. He is thinned skin, and wont be able to handle the media and fans when he starts struggling, and he is going to struggle this year, and hes going to get booed, and blamed, and chewed on by the media, because they don't care that he wasn't ready. He ran his mouth a lot, and acted a fool by not being drafted. Clearly he thinks hes ready to play, and should of been the first pick in the draft. Even though clearly hes not.

Not to mention again, but I will, the talent around him, in new York, is AWFUL.

Red Chum · 08-26-2013, 02:33 PM

When it comes to football, almost everything I say here is true and these dumb****s can't handle it. That's why I was banned in the first place. I told them this exact same shit last November.

Also, I never broke a rule until I was banned.

Be careful what you say Maverick because they will mob up and get you banned for talking reality. I'm not kidding. It's probably only a matter of time. However, it never really stops anyone. It just fuels the fire.

L.A. Chieffan · 08-26-2013, 02:33 PM

Dont try and talk reason to them BL, they want us to finish 1-15 every season just in case theres a guy out there that looks really good in 3 second GIF clips. LOL

DJ's left nut · 08-26-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Something I've learned this morning: This thread is a lot more fun with 49er douches on iggy.

Should not have waited so long to do that.

Did it a about 10 days ago - it's definitely for the best.

ChiefsCountry · 08-26-2013, 02:34 PM

Found this old clip on YouTube.

Elway throws 5 interceptions. Blackledge has none until the final play of the game. Chiefs have zero turnovers. Broncos have 6. Blackledge completes 60% of his passes. Elway struggles yet throws for over 300 yards. Blackledge can't complete a 3rd down pass to win the game, throws short. For some reason it seems like Groundhog Day being a Chiefs fan doesn't, I'm sure this will play out again this year.

Pablo · 08-26-2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Chum

When it comes to football, almost everything I say here is true and these dumb****s can't handle it. That's why I was banned in the first place. I told them this exact same shit last November.

Also, I never broke a rule until I was banned.

Be careful what you say Maverick because they will mob up and get you banned for talking reality.

Not even Maverick is gonna be able to **** up and be as ridiculed as you.

You're at the top of the recent list.

GordonGekko · 08-26-2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge

your facts don't support your logic. They drafted a QB in the 5th round two years ago. He was just cut.

Did they give him the opportunity to start? No. Stanzi was not given that commitment to develop him like Green Bay gave to Rodgers, etc. Stanzi was drafted to be a backup, not to eventually become the future of the franchise. This is my whole point. The last guy the Chiefs did this for was Blackledge, and that was 3 decades ago.

What I'm saying is I'd like the Chiefs to take a guy, preferably with a high draft choice, and build the program around him. In my opinion this is how modern NFL franchises are successful, but my benchmarks are Superbowl champions and teams that continually make the playoffs. Maybe you have different benchmarks than mine.

BigCatDaddy · 08-26-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

I really do get amused when people don't take the time to understand one, how cut throat the new York media is, and two don't realize just how bad of shape the New York Jets franchise is.

Yeah, your picture was funny, but what he said is true. You are talking about a guy who showed true professionalism when he stomped out of the green room, and had to be begged by his agent to go back the next night, then fired his agent, and was responding to criticisms about him on twitter.

hes a mark dude.

The faster he gets out of New York, the better his pro career is going to be. He is thinned skin, and wont be able to handle the media and fans when he starts struggling, and he is going to struggle this year, and hes going to get booed, and blamed, and chewed on by the media, because they don't care that he wasn't ready. He ran his mouth a lot, and acted a fool by not being drafted. Clearly he thinks hes ready to play, and should of been the first pick in the draft. Even though clearly hes not.

Not to mention again, but I will, the talent around him, in new York, is AWFUL.

Which is fine, but does mean "The book has been written"? Or has it been written with the Jets who are void of any talent on offense right now.

He is basically writing off a guy that may go through what the guy he is currently championing did while writing Geno A. He was talking out both sides of his wide ass.

Red Chum · 08-26-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

I think teams look for a guy that's been beaten out and put on the bench at every given opportunity; hence the wise trade for Alex.

When teams compared Alex to Geno the choice was pretty ****ing easy. Leadership and personality aside, go back and watch the tape. Just look at his head and you see what kind of QB he is. He made more than one read like three times during the entire season.

He was one of the easiest QBs ever to evaluate. You guys bought into the media bullshit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo

Not even Maverick is gonna be able to **** up and be as ridiculed as you.

You're at the top of the recent list.

Hopefully, one day I can be at the top of the list. I'm not leaving until I'm dead.

tooge · 08-26-2013, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GordonGekko

Did they give him the opportunity to start? No. Stanzi was not given that commitment to develop him like Green Bay gave to Rodgers, etc. Stanzi was drafted to be a backup, not to eventually become the future of the franchise. This is my whole point. The last guy the Chiefs did this for was Blackledge, and that was 3 decades ago.

What I'm saying is I'd like the Chiefs to take a guy, preferably with a high draft choice, and build the program around him. In my opinion this is how modern NFL franchises are successful, but my benchmarks are Superbowl champions and teams that continually make the playoffs. Maybe you have different benchmarks than mine.

again, facts don't support you. they drafted Croyle to be the guy. Couldn't stay healthy and sucked when he was

**Mav** · 08-26-2013, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Which is fine, but does mean "The book has been written"? Or has it been written with the Jets who are void of any talent on offense right now.

He is basically writing off a guy that may go through what the guy he is currently championing did while writing Geno A. He was talking out both sides of his wide ass.

Yeah, I understand. But, I hope you understand that Im not doubting, nor commenting on Geno's abilities. I simply pointed out the information that has been presented, and commented on the current state of ****tude that is the new York titanics......

Oh, and I think the book on him IN NEW YORK, has been written. Its going to be a couple years of turn over from coaches, and talent by that time I think the ship will have been sailed on Geno in new York, and he will go somewhere else to become successful.

BigCatDaddy · 08-26-2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Did it a about 10 days ago - it's definitely for the best.

I've avoided this thread for that very reason, but I think I'll give that a go.

**DeezNutz** · 08-26-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge

again, facts don't support you. they drafted Croyle to be the guy. Couldn't stay healthy and sucked when he was

Drafting Croyle was fine. Great. No problem. The problem is that you have to keep drafting QBs until you know you have one.

BigCatDaddy · 08-26-2013, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Yeah, I understand. But, I hope you understand that Im not doubting, nor commenting on Geno's abilities. I simply pointed out the information that has been presented, and commented on the current state of ****tude that is the new York titanics......

Nobody is disputing that. What was being disputed is writing someone's career off before the take 1 regular season snap.

02-27-2013, 10:59 AM
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Red Chum Banned Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $10004900	When it comes to football, almost everything I say here is true and these dumb****s can't handle it. That's why I was banned in the first place. I told them this exact same shit last November. Also, I never broke a rule until I was banned. Be careful what you say Maverick because they will mob up and get you banned for talking reality. I'm not kidding. It's probably only a matter of time. However, it never really stops anyone. It just fuels the fire.
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ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $2338752	Found this old clip on YouTube. Elway throws 5 interceptions. Blackledge has none until the final play of the game. Chiefs have zero turnovers. Broncos have 6. Blackledge completes 60% of his passes. Elway struggles yet throws for over 300 yards. Blackledge can't complete a 3rd down pass to win the game, throws short. For some reason it seems like Groundhog Day being a Chiefs fan doesn't, I'm sure this will play out again this year.
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