My draft wish... - Page 5

htismaqe · 01-03-2006, 10:43 AM

Everybody has already talked about Marcus McNeil, I think he'd be an awesome pick, but...

The guy I really covet is Michael Huff from Texas. He's played both CB and S in college, but at 6'1", 205, I'd be looking at him to take over Greg Wesley's spot. He's an electric playmaker and has a real nose for the ball.

He looks like a guy that could go 6-7 picks ahead of us, but because of his tweener status, he could slip.

milkman · 01-03-2006, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Herzig

How about this guy?

Jesse Mahelona DT 6’2 297 Tennessee
By: Robert Davis

Jesse Mahelona left Hawaii to play JuCo ball at Orange Coast College in California, and immediately made a name for himself. Despite playing only two games as a sophomore because of a broken ankle, he had every major program after him, and Tennessee won out for his services. As a junior in 2004, Mahelona made a major impact on the Vols interior line. He had 42 tackles with 18.5 of them for loss, and 5 sacks. Prior to this season, he was named to the Playboy All-American list.

Mahelona is the ideal 4-3 defensive tackle. He has a great burst off the line, and displays the ability to consistently penetrate the line. For a 300lber, he also shows great closing speed and the ability to chase down plays from behind. What makes Mahelona special is that he combines that penetration ability with great natural strength and the ability to hold his ground at the point of attack. While he is best suited for the 4-3, he could play in a 3-4 alignment on the edge.

Other than lacking ideal height for a defensive tackle, there isn’t a whole lot to knock in Mahelona’s game. He doesn’t have a great deal of experience, as he only played one season at JuCo before transferring to Tennessee.

There are a few defensive tackles near the top of the draft that could crack the Top 15. Mahelona has as good a shot as anyone to achieve that. For a team that wants someone to disrupt plays from the inside, Mahelona is the best tackle for them. But with a few other tackles that have better natural size, and they may be placed higher on some teams boards.

So the knock on this guy is height?

How tall is Maike Patterson?

Sully · 01-03-2006, 01:48 PM

I was reading Wright's scouting report, and I don't understand something.
How can he have a motor that doesn't stop, but also have a problem with work ethic? Is it a difference between practice vs gameday? I just don't get that.

Mecca · 01-03-2006, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully

I was reading Wright's scouting report, and I don't understand something.
How can he have a motor that doesn't stop, but also have a problem with work ethic? Is it a difference between practice vs gameday? I just don't get that.

I guess he's lazy when he's not playing but plays hard? That's extremely contradictory though.

htismaqe · 01-03-2006, 02:08 PM

I haven't seen much that says he's a motor guy...

Rodrique Wright
Height: 6-5 | Weight: 305 | 40-Time: 5.00

Official Bio

Strengths:
Big with a large frame that he could easily pack some additional pounds onto...An excellent natural athlete...Very quick and explosive with a burst...Strong and can hold his ground...Has great range and makes plays all over the field...Will penetrate and cause problems in the backfield...Has a lot of experience...Might be able to play defensive end in a 3-4 scheme...Still has a lot of upside.

Weaknesses:
An underachiever who doesn't always play up to his physical ability...Is not a hard worker...Technique is lacking...Will play too high at times...Allows blockers to lock on...Motor and stamina are very questionable...Has some durability concerns and dealt with a nagging angle injury for most of his junior season.

Notes:
Cousin of NFL defensive lineman Cedric Woodard and his uncle Elmo was a first-round draft pick of the Kansas City Chiefs in 1971...Talented player who looked like a future elite pro prospect early in his career before leveling off...Has the tools to be great but must be more consistent to fulfill that potential.

Sully · 01-03-2006, 02:12 PM

It was in one of the links posted on this thread.

KCTitus · 01-03-2006, 02:15 PM

OT's are a big need this year. Lose the line, the offense is done and so is LJ. Then we're nothing more than the 90's version of the Chiefs.

B_Ambuehl · 01-03-2006, 02:23 PM

Another high round texas bust...Cory Redding...

A total bust? No, but I don't think either him or Shaun Rogers produce what was expected of them....if they did then I would think that detroit defense would be able to get a stop from time to time.

That is one of the things that I heard from more then one person that year that hurt DJ....high Texas picks often tend to be overhyped. Guess the future will tell won't it? I'm predict both Rodrique Wright and Huff will prove in 5 years not to be worthy of first round picks....

Joining the list of texas flops Mike williams, Jammer, Redding, Cedric Benson et. al.

Vasher is the only one I'm aware of that has exceeded expectations for a UT prospect. DJ hasn't. Roy Williams hasn't.

Mecca · 01-03-2006, 02:24 PM

Shaun Rogers was a 2nd round pick that's become a Pro Bowl DT. I don't really know how you can say he hasn't lived up to anything........

Hammock Parties · 01-03-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Free agent tackles very rarely ever work out. We either draft one or trade for one.

I didn't say free agent.

We need to trade for one.

B_Ambuehl · 01-03-2006, 02:28 PM

The pro bowl doesn't amount too much IMO. Vick made the pro bowl this year. What I see is detroits defense unable to stop interior running and they have 2 UT defenders inside so take that or what it's worth.

Phuqtards like Jspchief look at shit like the pro bowl and base all their opinions off of that instead of evaluating a player with their own eyes and seeing what he can or can't do.

jspchief · 01-03-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Another high round texas bust...Cory Redding...

A total bust? No, but I don't think either him or Shaun Rogers produce what was expected of them....if they did then I would think that detroit defense would be able to get a stop from time to time.

That is one of the things that I heard from more then one person that year that hurt DJ....high Texas picks often tend to be overhyped. Guess the future will tell won't it? I'm predict both Rodrique Wright and Huff will prove in 5 years not to be worthy of first round picks....

Joining the list of texas flops Mike williams, Jammer, Redding, Cedric Benson et. al.

Vasher is the only one I'm aware of that has exceeded expectations for a UT prospect. DJ hasn't. Roy Williams hasn't.

Shaun Rogers is easily one of the best DTs in the NFL. Easily.

DJ hasn't exceeded expectations, but he has lived up to high expectations. You think he's a bust? Jammer may not have lived up to expectations, but I think "bust" would be overly critical.

As for Mike Williams, Roy Williams, and Cedric Benson, They are offense. You said defense.

"Most" implies more rather than less. Saying most defensive players out of Texas are busts is simply wrong.

Mecca · 01-03-2006, 02:29 PM

I wish we had Shaun Rogers........so take that for what it's worth.

htismaqe · 01-03-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Another high round texas bust...Cory Redding...

A total bust? No, but I don't think either him or Shaun Rogers produce what was expected of them....if they did then I would think that detroit defense would be able to get a stop from time to time.

That is one of the things that I heard from more then one person that year that hurt DJ....high Texas picks often tend to be overhyped. Guess the future will tell won't it? I'm predict both Rodrique Wright and Huff will prove in 5 years not to be worthy of first round picks....

Joining the list of texas flops Mike williams, Jammer, Redding, Cedric Benson et. al.

Vasher is the only one I'm aware of that has exceeded expectations for a UT prospect. DJ hasn't. Roy Williams hasn't.

Cedric Benson? He's been in the league for one year? Was Larry Johnson a flop?

You're on crack dude.

B_Ambuehl · 01-03-2006, 02:32 PM

oh yeah Jspchief...i just edited my above post and it's addressed directly to you.

milkman · 01-03-2006, 02:34 PM

I think B Ambhuel is a well spoken, articulate poster.

It's just too bad he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

01-03-2006, 10:43 AM
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	My draft wish... Everybody has already talked about Marcus McNeil, I think he'd be an awesome pick, but... The guy I really covet is Michael Huff from Texas. He's played both CB and S in college, but at 6'1", 205, I'd be looking at him to take over Greg Wesley's spot. He's an electric playmaker and has a real nose for the ball. He looks like a guy that could go 6-7 picks ahead of us, but because of his tweener status, he could slip.
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01-03-2006, 01:48 PM	#62
Sully It Goes On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10026331	I was reading Wright's scouting report, and I don't understand something. How can he have a motor that doesn't stop, but also have a problem with work ethic? Is it a difference between practice vs gameday? I just don't get that. __________________ "And I don't wish that girl any bad luck," he said, "but I hope she gets hit with a car." - Tommy Lasorda
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01-03-2006, 02:08 PM	#64
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	I haven't seen much that says he's a motor guy... Rodrique Wright Height: 6-5 \| Weight: 305 \| 40-Time: 5.00 Official Bio Strengths: Big with a large frame that he could easily pack some additional pounds onto...An excellent natural athlete...Very quick and explosive with a burst...Strong and can hold his ground...Has great range and makes plays all over the field...Will penetrate and cause problems in the backfield...Has a lot of experience...Might be able to play defensive end in a 3-4 scheme...Still has a lot of upside. Weaknesses: An underachiever who doesn't always play up to his physical ability...Is not a hard worker...Technique is lacking...Will play too high at times...Allows blockers to lock on...Motor and stamina are very questionable...Has some durability concerns and dealt with a nagging angle injury for most of his junior season. Notes: Cousin of NFL defensive lineman Cedric Woodard and his uncle Elmo was a first-round draft pick of the Kansas City Chiefs in 1971...Talented player who looked like a future elite pro prospect early in his career before leveling off...Has the tools to be great but must be more consistent to fulfill that potential.
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Sully It Goes On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10026331	It was in one of the links posted on this thread. __________________ "And I don't wish that girl any bad luck," he said, "but I hope she gets hit with a car." - Tommy Lasorda
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KCTitus Archivist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Ethernet Casino cash: $9892732	OT's are a big need this year. Lose the line, the offense is done and so is LJ. Then we're nothing more than the 90's version of the Chiefs. __________________ Anything you post on this BB can and will be used against you...
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01-03-2006, 02:23 PM	#67
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	Another high round texas bust...Cory Redding... A total bust? No, but I don't think either him or Shaun Rogers produce what was expected of them....if they did then I would think that detroit defense would be able to get a stop from time to time. That is one of the things that I heard from more then one person that year that hurt DJ....high Texas picks often tend to be overhyped. Guess the future will tell won't it? I'm predict both Rodrique Wright and Huff will prove in 5 years not to be worthy of first round picks.... Joining the list of texas flops Mike williams, Jammer, Redding, Cedric Benson et. al. Vasher is the only one I'm aware of that has exceeded expectations for a UT prospect. DJ hasn't. Roy Williams hasn't. __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with" LOL
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01-03-2006, 02:24 PM	#68
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2607050	Shaun Rogers was a 2nd round pick that's become a Pro Bowl DT. I don't really know how you can say he hasn't lived up to anything........
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01-03-2006, 02:28 PM	#70
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	The pro bowl doesn't amount too much IMO. Vick made the pro bowl this year. What I see is detroits defense unable to stop interior running and they have 2 UT defenders inside so take that or what it's worth. Phuqtards like Jspchief look at shit like the pro bowl and base all their opinions off of that instead of evaluating a player with their own eyes and seeing what he can or can't do. __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with" LOL
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01-03-2006, 02:29 PM	#72
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2607050	I wish we had Shaun Rogers........so take that for what it's worth.
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01-03-2006, 02:32 PM	#74
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	oh yeah Jspchief...i just edited my above post and it's addressed directly to you. __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with" LOL
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