Football ToddHaley to get punched by one of his players?

vailpass · 04-24-2009, 05:00 PM

Here is an article from today's local Phoenix paper about Haley with KC. The writer is one of the better sports guys here in town...

Bickley: Haley could shake up NFL
Dan Bickley - Apr. 23, 2009 06:47 PM
The Arizona Republic
Profile: Todd Haley

There's an ongoing wager inside the Cardinals training facility. One side of the money says Todd Haley will get slugged by a Chiefs player before the start of the regular season.

So far, there have been no punches and no payoff. But it's early.
"There are times, and I hate to admit it, when I get out of control a little bit," said Haley, new head coach of the Chiefs. "And as a head coach, you have to keep control. That's something I'll have to work on."

There are many great stories in the NFL 2009. The Cardinals are reigning NFC champions. The Bears finally have a franchise quarterback. And in Kansas City, the wonderfully volatile Haley brings his combative intensity to a team that was 2-14 one season ago.

Is the former Cardinals offensive coordinator ready to be a head coach? Are the Chiefs ready for him?

Haley just turned 42. He never played the game. But he's the son of a football legend, a protege of Bill Parcells and a man unafraid to challenge his players. In Arizona, his constant badgering made Kurt Warner better, and it turned Larry Fitzgerald into the best receiver in football.

"I coach guys hard," he said.

It's football as it should be. But can a brusque, demanding throwback such as Haley succeed as a head coach in the 21st century, in an era when Tom Coughlin had to soften up to save his job?

It's a good question, and one of many that have Haley scratching his head.

"The people I go to for advice and the people that mean a lot to me all say the same thing: 'Be yourself,' " Haley said. "We'll give it a try, and if I have to dial it back a little, I will."

Haley just concluded his first minicamp in Kansas City, and of the 67 players on the roster, 64 showed up. Haley stressed to his players that practice was a big deal, and it had to be done his way, at high speeds. He also made everyone wear red helmets without the famous arrowhead logo. It was a reminder that they were all starting from scratch.

It hasn't been an easy transition. When he first got the job, he met offensive lineman Brian Waters in the hallway, and told the veteran player that he could get 22 players off the street and win two games. Waters was so offended by the "arrogance" of his new coach that he promptly demanded a trade. Meanwhile, the Chiefs finally traded disgruntled tight end Tony Gonzalez on Thursday, and surely, there will be more bruised feelings along the way.

It's also been difficult flushing the Super Bowl loss. Haley and three assistant coaches he imported from Arizona (Clancy Pendergast, Maurice Carthon, Dedric Ward) recently were fitted for their NFC Championship rings, and it reminded them of the pit in their stomach.

Then during one of the team's practices, a Chiefs quarterback threw an interception near the goal line. Only a few of the offensive players hustled to tackle the interceptor. It struck a chord with Haley, who still visualizes James Harrison rumbling down the sidelines for a touchdown after intercepting Warner in the Super Bowl.

He put the play on tape and showed it to his team.

"That one was near and dear," Haley said. "We may not do a lot of things well, but we're going to chase and tackle on interceptions, that's for sure."

Haley is smart, well-trained and highly competitive. He became a household name during the NFC Championship Game. He was verbally assaulted by Anquan Boldin on the sidelines during the game-winning drive, yet never lost his focus. Then in the postgame glow, Fitzgerald thanked him publicly for the tough love, crediting Haley for his mind-boggling improvement.

That put him over the top, effectively landing him in Kansas City, where he might be the next big thing. Or he might rub the wrong guy the wrong way.

"Obviously, I can't say this is a dream come true for me because I never dreamed I'd be a head coach in the NFL," Haley said. "It's unbelievable to me that I have a chance to impact this league."

Here's hoping he shakes things up really well.

www.arizonarepublic.com

keg in kc · 04-24-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

He also made everyone wear red helmets without the famous arrowhead logo. It was a reminder that they were all starting from scratch.

I like that.

And I must've missed the star article that mentioned it.

Otter · 04-24-2009, 05:04 PM

Have I mentioned I really like these guys?

Huffman83 · 04-24-2009, 05:06 PM

If memory serves me correctly. I don't remember the helmets having arrowheads in the voluntary workouts. Either way....me likes.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-24-2009, 05:15 PM

If he doesn't win here, him getting his ass whipped by a player would be a humorous consolation prize.

**Skip Towne** · 04-24-2009, 05:18 PM

You can act like that as long as you win. If you do it while losing you're just an asshole.

stevieray · 04-24-2009, 05:28 PM

I'm just glad it's finally happening. It's so way overdue it's pathetic..Tommorrow's draft is going to be the biggest indicator of what direction we are going, other than trading the face of the team away, stripping it back down to a core where players need to earn the job. They've been coddled since DV. Again, pathetic.

as long as they truly get guys whom football is the number one priority..we'll be fine.

**bevischief** · 04-24-2009, 05:28 PM

Larry Johnson.

**the Talking Can** · 04-24-2009, 05:30 PM

so he's not an emo homo like Denver's Kiddie Koach

good

**FRCDFED** · 04-24-2009, 05:37 PM

Taking the emblems off the helmets is an old Parcells trick. He was pretty famous for doing that in Dallas until they "earned" the star. Parcells also used to make the rookies get his refreshments for him.

I hope Haley does the same!!

Mojo Jojo · 04-24-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I like that.

And I must've missed the star article that mentioned it.

If you have ever seen a mini camp then you know NFL Teams don't put logos on helmets until pre season. Nothing new here and nothing to see...please move along.

Cormac · 04-24-2009, 06:01 PM

This is all well and good...........if he wins.

But when it comes to head coaching, he's as unproven as a 7th round pick.

I don't give a toss if he berates everybody, or gives them back-rubs on Mondays, but (as under my username says) I'm a Haley sceptic. He's got a TON to prove. And all the "I'm-a-Parcells-protege" arrogance in the world gets him this >< far in my book. He needs to put up and shut up just like all of our draft picks.

keg in kc · 04-24-2009, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo

If you have ever seen a mini camp then you know NFL Teams don't put logos on helmets until pre season. Nothing new here and nothing to see...please move along.

I've been to several, but I don't know that I paid any attention to the helmets.

keg in kc · 04-24-2009, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cormac

This is all well and good...........if he wins.

But when it comes to head coaching, he's as unproven as a 7th round pick.

I don't give a toss if he berates everybody, or gives them back-rubs on Mondays, but (as under my username says) I'm a Haley sceptic. He's got a TON to prove. And all the "I'm-a-Parcells-protege" arrogance in the world gets him this >< far in my book. He needs to put up and shut up just like all of our draft picks.

I think he's aloof. I'm not convinced he's arrogant.

It doesn't bother me to have a coach who isn't a media darling. That doesn't win games any more than berating anybody does.

Zeke Ziggle · 04-24-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

"That one was near and dear," Haley said. "We may not do a lot of things well, but we're going to chase and tackle on interceptions, that's for sure."

Well we may suck but at least we won't have to worry about people returning interceptions on us.

04-24-2009, 05:00 PM
vailpass Psycho Bag Of Squanch Join Date: Sep 2001 Casino cash: $9594244	ToddHaley to get punched by one of his players? Here is an article from today's local Phoenix paper about Haley with KC. The writer is one of the better sports guys here in town... Bickley: Haley could shake up NFL Dan Bickley - Apr. 23, 2009 06:47 PM The Arizona Republic Profile: Todd Haley There's an ongoing wager inside the Cardinals training facility. One side of the money says Todd Haley will get slugged by a Chiefs player before the start of the regular season. So far, there have been no punches and no payoff. But it's early. "There are times, and I hate to admit it, when I get out of control a little bit," said Haley, new head coach of the Chiefs. "And as a head coach, you have to keep control. That's something I'll have to work on." There are many great stories in the NFL 2009. The Cardinals are reigning NFC champions. The Bears finally have a franchise quarterback. And in Kansas City, the wonderfully volatile Haley brings his combative intensity to a team that was 2-14 one season ago. Is the former Cardinals offensive coordinator ready to be a head coach? Are the Chiefs ready for him? Haley just turned 42. He never played the game. But he's the son of a football legend, a protege of Bill Parcells and a man unafraid to challenge his players. In Arizona, his constant badgering made Kurt Warner better, and it turned Larry Fitzgerald into the best receiver in football. "I coach guys hard," he said. It's football as it should be. But can a brusque, demanding throwback such as Haley succeed as a head coach in the 21st century, in an era when Tom Coughlin had to soften up to save his job? It's a good question, and one of many that have Haley scratching his head. "The people I go to for advice and the people that mean a lot to me all say the same thing: 'Be yourself,' " Haley said. "We'll give it a try, and if I have to dial it back a little, I will." Haley just concluded his first minicamp in Kansas City, and of the 67 players on the roster, 64 showed up. Haley stressed to his players that practice was a big deal, and it had to be done his way, at high speeds. He also made everyone wear red helmets without the famous arrowhead logo. It was a reminder that they were all starting from scratch. It hasn't been an easy transition. When he first got the job, he met offensive lineman Brian Waters in the hallway, and told the veteran player that he could get 22 players off the street and win two games. Waters was so offended by the "arrogance" of his new coach that he promptly demanded a trade. Meanwhile, the Chiefs finally traded disgruntled tight end Tony Gonzalez on Thursday, and surely, there will be more bruised feelings along the way. It's also been difficult flushing the Super Bowl loss. Haley and three assistant coaches he imported from Arizona (Clancy Pendergast, Maurice Carthon, Dedric Ward) recently were fitted for their NFC Championship rings, and it reminded them of the pit in their stomach. Then during one of the team's practices, a Chiefs quarterback threw an interception near the goal line. Only a few of the offensive players hustled to tackle the interceptor. It struck a chord with Haley, who still visualizes James Harrison rumbling down the sidelines for a touchdown after intercepting Warner in the Super Bowl. He put the play on tape and showed it to his team. "That one was near and dear," Haley said. "We may not do a lot of things well, but we're going to chase and tackle on interceptions, that's for sure." Haley is smart, well-trained and highly competitive. He became a household name during the NFC Championship Game. He was verbally assaulted by Anquan Boldin on the sidelines during the game-winning drive, yet never lost his focus. Then in the postgame glow, Fitzgerald thanked him publicly for the tough love, crediting Haley for his mind-boggling improvement. That put him over the top, effectively landing him in Kansas City, where he might be the next big thing. Or he might rub the wrong guy the wrong way. "Obviously, I can't say this is a dream come true for me because I never dreamed I'd be a head coach in the NFL," Haley said. "It's unbelievable to me that I have a chance to impact this league." Here's hoping he shakes things up really well. www.arizonarepublic.com
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