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Deberg_1990 · 10-06-2004, 04:29 PM

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....

**SAUTO** · 04-30-2009, 11:18 AM

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But Radinsky is the guy I'm thinking of?

sounds like it

**Baby Lee** · 04-30-2009, 11:30 AM

****ity ****, just realized that Eloise '77 is, like Guyliner, identical to Eloise '54, but unlike Guyliner, very different from Eloise 'childhood Dan' or Eloise 'present day.'.

Chiefnj2 · 04-30-2009, 11:36 AM

Why is the "incident" a big deal?

Didn't the "incident" happen in the past? There were still others and Dharma people around for Ben to gas and switch roles after the "incident".

Why is it so important now?

arrowheadnation · 04-30-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

But Radinsky is the guy I'm thinking of?

Yes.

arrowheadnation · 04-30-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Why is the "incident" a big deal?

Didn't the "incident" happen in the past? There were still others and Dharma people around for Ben to gas and switch roles after the "incident".

Why is it so important now?

The two hour season finale episode is named "The Incident"....I'm thinking it's going to be pretty important.

Chiefnj2 · 04-30-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by aarowheadnation

The two hour season finale episode is named "The Incident"....I'm thinking it's going to be pretty important.

You didn't answer the question though. The incident happened in the past, right? Life went on for both Dharma and the hostiles. Chang might have lost an arm, but it wasn't like everybody died.

arrowheadnation · 04-30-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

You didn't answer the question though. The incident happened in the past, right? Life went on for both Dharma and the hostiles. Chang might have lost an arm, but it wasn't like everybody died.

You're right, it's pretty apparent it doesn't kill people, but for the season finale to have that name, it must be very important.

Mr. Plow · 04-30-2009, 10:22 PM

Thank you to all of you guys for remembering the shit from past seasons that I don't. My memory sucks.

rad · 04-30-2009, 10:59 PM

Yeah mine too, cause I don't recall Chang losing an arm.....but I recall Jin or somebody finding an arm skeleton in the jungle, maybe near the cave where Smoky lives.

Chiefnj2 · 05-01-2009, 08:33 AM

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Yeah mine too, cause I don't recall Chang losing an arm.....but I recall Jin or somebody finding an arm skeleton in the jungle, maybe near the cave where Smoky lives.

In the orientation videos that the lostees found when they discovered the various stations, Chang (who used the names candle, etc.) has a prosthetic hand.

**noa** · 05-01-2009, 11:38 AM

Ok, so I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around this because of the time travel issues:

When Faraday talked to Desmond when Desmond was in the hatch, this popped into Desmond's head later as a memory, but he didn't always have that memory, right?

But here, when Faraday gets shot by his mom, she always had that memory, it wasn't just something that popped into her mind one the event (in the past) actually occurred. She always knew that was going to happen.

Not sure if that makes any sense or whether someone can help me understand it better.

Chiefnj2 · 05-01-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by noa

Ok, so I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around this because of the time travel issues:

When Faraday talked to Desmond when Desmond was in the hatch, this popped into Desmond's head later as a memory, but he didn't always have that memory, right?

But here, when Faraday gets shot by his mom, she always had that memory, it wasn't just something that popped into her mind one the event (in the past) actually occurred. She always knew that was going to happen.

Not sure if that makes any sense or whether someone can help me understand it better.

I agree with you about Desmond.

The second part makes my head hurt. Hawkings, with Ben's help, get the 6 back to the island, but they get divided. Does she know that? Ben seems genuinely surprised about some of the things. Did she know that Jack et al were going to be sent back to the 70's? Does she know her son is in the 70's? At the hospital when she talks to Widmore and Penny she says she doesn't know what will happen, but yet she knows her son was sacrificed.

irishjayhawk · 05-01-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by noa

Ok, so I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around this because of the time travel issues:

When Faraday talked to Desmond when Desmond was in the hatch, this popped into Desmond's head later as a memory, but he didn't always have that memory, right?

But here, when Faraday gets shot by his mom, she always had that memory, it wasn't just something that popped into her mind one the event (in the past) actually occurred. She always knew that was going to happen.

Not sure if that makes any sense or whether someone can help me understand it better.

The difference, as I see it, is Eloise's power was always knowing the future. So therefore the memory wasn't really a memory but just a fact.

**SAUTO** · 05-01-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by irishjayhawk

The difference, as I see it, is Eloise's power was always knowing the future. So therefore the memory wasn't really a memory but just a fact.

then wehy did she say "for once i have no idea whats coming next" while talking to penny in the hospital? i think she has jumped around alot and right then was actually her present. and when she shot faraday she didnt know it was her son, later in life after having him she realized(because he told her who he was after being shot) that she HAD to make sure he fulfilled his destiny.

ZootedGranny · 05-01-2009, 06:04 PM

Eloise kills adult Daniel in 77, finds out he is her son, and then presumably takes his journal. She then attempts to recreate the events that lead Daniel into his journey, such as pushing him towards science, giving him the blank journal after graduation.

In 2007, Eloise no longer knows what will happen because Daniel's journal entries stop when he is killed.

I think that's the timeline.

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ZootedGranny Chump Steamroller Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: . Casino cash: $10015042	Eloise kills adult Daniel in 77, finds out he is her son, and then presumably takes his journal. She then attempts to recreate the events that lead Daniel into his journey, such as pushing him towards science, giving him the blank journal after graduation. In 2007, Eloise no longer knows what will happen because Daniel's journal entries stop when he is killed. I think that's the timeline.
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