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Old 04-18-2008, 05:08 PM   Topic Starter
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A brand spanking new Jared Allen thread
According to a Vikes' board (this is probably from their Scout.com site like the similiarly unlinked report from yesterday):

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- The Chiefs want more than the 1st and 3rd the Vikings are alleged to have offered. It is said that it will take a "wow offer" to get them to agree to the trade.

- Time is an important factor. If Allen was signed to an offer sheet then the Chiefs would be guaranteed seven days to match it. An offer sheet would have to be signed and approved by the league by tomorrow (Saturday) to give KC seven days before the draft.

Without the offer sheet option to fall back on, the entire deal hinges on the Vikings being able to offer the Chiefs enough in return to make the trade. If they don't offer a deal to the Chiefs liking, Allen isn't coming.

- The Vikings believe more teams, at least 3, have contacted KC about Allen in the last 24 hours once all this news got out. But in terms of having the picks to satisfy the Chiefs and the cap room to get a deal done, the Vikings believe they're in the lead.

- One of the 3 teams, though, is rumored to be New England, and the chance of getting their high first rounder is going to entice the Chiefs a lot more than getting Minnesota's. The Patriots also have a high third round pick (4 spots higher than the Vikings' first pick in that round).

Still, it's not known what, if anything, the Patriots have offered. And it's unlikely the Chiefs would want to trade Allen to an AFC team.
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Old 04-18-2008, 05:11 PM   #2
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OK Mecca, tell us how stupid the Patriots are.
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OK Mecca, tell us how stupid the Patriots are.
I'll believe they'll do it when I see it, but they also sit in win now mode...
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Old 04-18-2008, 05:22 PM   #4
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OK Mecca, tell us how stupid the Patriots are.

Considering it's from Scout, I'd be pointing the stupidity comments in that direction.
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Considering it's from Scout, I'd be pointing the stupidity comments in that direction.
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Old 04-18-2008, 05:38 PM   #6
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Not all of scout - just the part with whom you're affiliated.
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From the website that brought you such classics as:

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can a team fit two top 10 picks with the rookie pool?
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can a team fit two top 10 picks with the rookie pool?
I'd love to find out.
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can a team fit two top 10 picks with the rookie pool?
I'm pretty sure the rookie pool is based on the picks a team has. The Raiders last year had one of the biggest rookie pool amounts ever because they had 11 total picks, including #1 overall and like 4-5 other picks on the first day. And their pool was $6-$7 million.

The Chiefs have at least $20 some million in cap space, if not more. Especially if they aren't paying Allen. So unless they needed double the largest rookie pool in history, they should be okay.

I doubt there's anything to the Patriots talk, though. Note that they snuck the word "rumored" in there.
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I'm pretty sure the rookie pool is based on the picks a team has. The Raiders last year had one of the biggest rookie pool amounts ever because they had 11 total picks, including #1 overall and like 4-5 other picks on the first day. And their pool was $6-$7 million.

The Chiefs have at least $20 some million in cap space, if not more. Especially if they aren't paying Allen. So unless they needed double the largest rookie pool in history, they should be okay.

I doubt there's anything to the Patriots talk, though. Note that they snuck the word "rumored" in there.
They have closer to $30 million in cap room.
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can a team fit two top 10 picks with the rookie pool?
Considering the rookie cap increases proportionately according to your picks and slotting, yes. They usually notify teams of their rookie cap just before the draft and then make adjustments for trades afterwards.
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Considering the rookie cap increases proportionately according to your picks and slotting, yes. They usually notify teams of their rookie cap just before the draft and then make adjustments for trades afterwards.
yeah, I was unaware of that...though it makes sense...
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can a team fit two top 10 picks with the rookie pool?
The rookie pool is determined after the draft. So the more picks and the higher the picks we have we will get a larger rookie pool.
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