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Deberg_1990 · 04-12-2013, 06:26 AM

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...pitch/2076525/

The Los Angeles Dodgers won the game Thursday night against the San Diego Padres, but their pennant hopes certainly took a hit.

Dodgers starter Zack Greinke fractured his left collarbone in a bench-clearing brawl during the Dodgers' 3-2 victory over the Padres at Petco Park, prompting enraged Dodgers center fielder Matt Kemp to confront Padres left fielder Carlos Quentin in the clubhouse tunnel after the game.

Padres starter Clayton Richard and security guards intervened before another fight ensued.

The brawl started when Quentin was hit in the shoulder by Greinke's pitch in the sixth inning. He took several steps towards the mound with his bat, dropped it, and charged Greinke. It was the second time in four years that Greinke hit Quentin, but Quentin was intercepted by Kansas City Royals catcher Miguel Olivo and home-plate umpire Bill Hohn back on April 9, 2009, when Greinke pitched for the Royals and Quentin played for the Chicago White Sox.

This time, no one held anyone back, with Greinke, Kemp and Jerry Hairston ejected from the Dodgers, along with Quentin.

The biggest losers, of course, were the Dodgers, with Greinke sidelined for an indefinite period. He's scheduled to see Los Angles physician Neal ElAttrache on Friday. Greinke signed a six-year, $147 million free-agent contract during the winter.

"My teammate now has a broken f------ collarbone,'' Hairston told reporters. "Excuse my language, but that's unbelievable.''

Said Quentin: "It's unfortunate. It could have been avoided. You can ask Zack about that.

"For me, I've been hit by many pitches in my career. I think you guys know that. I can tell you I've never responded in that fashion, so you guys can do your homework on that. For me, the situation is done. That's it.''

Quentin was most infuriated, he told reporters, by what Greinke told him after he was hit.

"That was the final straw,'' he said.

Kemp, enraged by the incident, met face to face with Quentin in the hallway after the game at Petco Park. He followed Quentin into the parking lot and saying: "We'll see, b----,'' according to the Los Angeles Times.

"That's terrible for him to charge the mound like that,'' Kemp told reporters. "I think Carlos Quentin went to Stanford. I heard there's some smart people at Stanford. That wasn't too smart.''

Dodgers manager Don Mattingly said that Quentin shouldn't be permitted to play another game until Greinke can pitch.

"We're in a 2-1 game and on a 3-2 pitch to a guy that I see on the [score]board set a record for the Padres by getting hit, a guy who basically dives into the plate,'' Mattingly said, according to the MLB.com report. "In a 2-1 game, we're trying to hit him, 3-2?

"It's just stupid is what it is. He should not play a game until Greinke can pitch. If he plays before Greinke pitches, something is wrong.''

Said Greinke: "The only thing I'm going to say about the whole thing that happened there is I've never hit him on purpose. I never thought of hitting him on purpose.''

Quentin has long been a magnet for pitches. In 2004, he set a minor league record by getting plunked 43 times, and he led the major leagues the past two seasons, getting hit 23 times in 2011 and 17 times last year, even though he played just 86 games.

Greinke told reporters he thought Quentin's umbrage in reacting to getting hit by pitches was "a ploy" to intimidate pitchers.

"I figured he was trying to intimidate pitchers so they wouldn't throw inside,' he said.

The Dodgers and Padres play again Monday, this time, in Los Angeles at Dodger Stadium on Jackie Robinson Day.

WhawhaWhat · 04-12-2013, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but I was watching this live as it happened on MLB Network. Kemp kept yelling "That's ****ing bullshit!" over and over. Vin Scully goes,
"'That's fertilizer!' says Matt Kemp over and over. 'That's fertilizer!'"

Vin Scully rules.

The best ever. Not even close.

ImAWalkingCorpse · 04-12-2013, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

your welcome. now go diaf

and then he ruins it.

BlackHelicopters · 04-12-2013, 04:49 PM

Just saw the video. Lower your shoulder? That's your plan?

WhawhaWhat · 04-12-2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ImAWalkingCorpse

and then he ruins it.

-King- · 04-12-2013, 05:02 PM

After seeing that video of Greinke throwing at his head a couple years ago, I don't really blame Quentin anymore. Not saying it was intentional...but I think Quentin did have a valid reason to charge the mound. If someone almost hit my head twice before, I wouldn't take it kindly if they hit me again. Especially if they started talking shit right after they hit me.

Hootie · 04-12-2013, 05:28 PM

I have a hard time having respect for a guy who acted like a little girl earlier this week when he got hit (Quentin) in the same series...

WHEN HE WAS TRYING TO SWING THE ****ING BAT

when you are in the middle of swinging the bat and you get hit because the ball runs in on you...that means your reactions are shit and you don't have any reason to bitch

THE DUDE LED THE LEAGUE IN HBP LAST YEAR AND HE PLAYED 80 GAMES

He never has the right to charge the mound. Ever. Especially on a full count in a 2-1 game.

ImAWalkingCorpse · 04-12-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Eat shit, dickwad.

Hootie · 04-12-2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio

If Greinke is supposedly so insightful about the risks inherent in plunking a batter and how it might cost the Dodgers one measly game.

He owes the Dodgers similar insight in how him getting hurt in an unnecessary brawl can cost the Dodgers their chances at the division and the playoffs.

IMO, justice would be Quentin gets the run of the mill charging the mound suspension when it appears to be an unintentional beaning. Greinke gets suspended one start when he is off disabled list. And everybody learn that one reason not to get in unnecessary fights is that you can get injured and not contribute to the team.

oh

because had Greinke turned around and sprinted away this would have been "good lord Greinke is a huge pussy lol lol" instead of the morons who don't know anything about baseball trying to say he beaned Quentin on purpose on a 3-2 count in a 1 run game because he didn't want to "serve up a meatball"

...

what?

Hootie · 04-12-2013, 05:30 PM

Greinke isn't going to get fined a dime or suspended an out...the idea that that is even in play is absurd.

It'll be pretty hilarious when the suspensions are handed out and Quentin gets at least 8 games and Greinke gets nothing...

then all of the dipshits in this thread will really have nothing else to go on other than the "hey I'm a dipshit, dipshit...dipshit! dipshit! dipshit! and I don't watch baseball and don't understand the game either"...

Brock · 04-12-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio

If Greinke is supposedly so insightful about the risks inherent in plunking a batter and how it might cost the Dodgers one measly game.

He owes the Dodgers similar insight in how him getting hurt in an unnecessary brawl can cost the Dodgers their chances at the division and the playoffs.

IMO, justice would be Quentin gets the run of the mill charging the mound suspension when it appears to be an unintentional beaning. Greinke gets suspended one start when he is off disabled list. And everybody learn that one reason not to get in unnecessary fights is that you can get injured and not contribute to the team.

Sure. He should have just stood there and let a few punches bounce off his face. You incredible dipshit.

Hootie · 04-12-2013, 05:31 PM

Roger Clemens threw a bat at Mike Piazza in a playoff game and Mike Piazza didn't charge the mound because it didn't make sense.

Quentin charging the mound was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. 1 run game? 3-2 count? That's just flat out ABSURD.

SnakeXJones · 04-12-2013, 05:32 PM

Greinke is just a fragile bitch **** both these teams

Hootie · 04-12-2013, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SnakeXJones

Greinke is just a fragile bitch **** both these teams

yeah he's super fragile he's only pitched 200 innings in 4 of his last 5 with the 1 exception being a 170 IP season.

SO FRAGILE

**lewdog** · 04-12-2013, 05:39 PM

Video posted in OP has been removed. Link to one that works?

Lex Luthor · 04-12-2013, 05:41 PM

If I were Don Mattingly I'd start my worst pitcher the next time the Dodgers play the Padres, and that guy's job would be to put the ball in Quentin's ear.

04-12-2013, 06:26 AM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	Greinke Brawls..breaks collarbone http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...pitch/2076525/ The Los Angeles Dodgers won the game Thursday night against the San Diego Padres, but their pennant hopes certainly took a hit. Dodgers starter Zack Greinke fractured his left collarbone in a bench-clearing brawl during the Dodgers' 3-2 victory over the Padres at Petco Park, prompting enraged Dodgers center fielder Matt Kemp to confront Padres left fielder Carlos Quentin in the clubhouse tunnel after the game. Padres starter Clayton Richard and security guards intervened before another fight ensued. The brawl started when Quentin was hit in the shoulder by Greinke's pitch in the sixth inning. He took several steps towards the mound with his bat, dropped it, and charged Greinke. It was the second time in four years that Greinke hit Quentin, but Quentin was intercepted by Kansas City Royals catcher Miguel Olivo and home-plate umpire Bill Hohn back on April 9, 2009, when Greinke pitched for the Royals and Quentin played for the Chicago White Sox. This time, no one held anyone back, with Greinke, Kemp and Jerry Hairston ejected from the Dodgers, along with Quentin. The biggest losers, of course, were the Dodgers, with Greinke sidelined for an indefinite period. He's scheduled to see Los Angles physician Neal ElAttrache on Friday. Greinke signed a six-year, $147 million free-agent contract during the winter. "My teammate now has a broken f------ collarbone,'' Hairston told reporters. "Excuse my language, but that's unbelievable.'' Said Quentin: "It's unfortunate. It could have been avoided. You can ask Zack about that. "For me, I've been hit by many pitches in my career. I think you guys know that. I can tell you I've never responded in that fashion, so you guys can do your homework on that. For me, the situation is done. That's it.'' Quentin was most infuriated, he told reporters, by what Greinke told him after he was hit. "That was the final straw,'' he said. Kemp, enraged by the incident, met face to face with Quentin in the hallway after the game at Petco Park. He followed Quentin into the parking lot and saying: "We'll see, b----,'' according to the Los Angeles Times. "That's terrible for him to charge the mound like that,'' Kemp told reporters. "I think Carlos Quentin went to Stanford. I heard there's some smart people at Stanford. That wasn't too smart.'' Dodgers manager Don Mattingly said that Quentin shouldn't be permitted to play another game until Greinke can pitch. "We're in a 2-1 game and on a 3-2 pitch to a guy that I see on the [score]board set a record for the Padres by getting hit, a guy who basically dives into the plate,'' Mattingly said, according to the MLB.com report. "In a 2-1 game, we're trying to hit him, 3-2? "It's just stupid is what it is. He should not play a game until Greinke can pitch. If he plays before Greinke pitches, something is wrong.'' Said Greinke: "The only thing I'm going to say about the whole thing that happened there is I've never hit him on purpose. I never thought of hitting him on purpose.'' Quentin has long been a magnet for pitches. In 2004, he set a minor league record by getting plunked 43 times, and he led the major leagues the past two seasons, getting hit 23 times in 2011 and 17 times last year, even though he played just 86 games. Greinke told reporters he thought Quentin's umbrage in reacting to getting hit by pitches was "a ploy" to intimidate pitchers. "I figured he was trying to intimidate pitchers so they wouldn't throw inside,' he said. The Dodgers and Padres play again Monday, this time, in Los Angeles at Dodger Stadium on Jackie Robinson Day.
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-King- ▓▓▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▓▓ Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $2495743	After seeing that video of Greinke throwing at his head a couple years ago, I don't really blame Quentin anymore. Not saying it was intentional...but I think Quentin did have a valid reason to charge the mound. If someone almost hit my head twice before, I wouldn't take it kindly if they hit me again. Especially if they started talking shit right after they hit me. __________________ 🏁
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I have a hard time having respect for a guy who acted like a little girl earlier this week when he got hit (Quentin) in the same series... WHEN HE WAS TRYING TO SWING THE ****ING BAT when you are in the middle of swinging the bat and you get hit because the ball runs in on you...that means your reactions are shit and you don't have any reason to bitch THE DUDE LED THE LEAGUE IN HBP LAST YEAR AND HE PLAYED 80 GAMES He never has the right to charge the mound. Ever. Especially on a full count in a 2-1 game.
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Greinke isn't going to get fined a dime or suspended an out...the idea that that is even in play is absurd. It'll be pretty hilarious when the suspensions are handed out and Quentin gets at least 8 games and Greinke gets nothing... then all of the dipshits in this thread will really have nothing else to go on other than the "hey I'm a dipshit, dipshit...dipshit! dipshit! dipshit! and I don't watch baseball and don't understand the game either"...
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Roger Clemens threw a bat at Mike Piazza in a playoff game and Mike Piazza didn't charge the mound because it didn't make sense. Quentin charging the mound was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. 1 run game? 3-2 count? That's just flat out ABSURD.
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SnakeXJones In Snake We Trust Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: KCK Casino cash: $10004985	Greinke is just a fragile bitch **** both these teams
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Lex Luthor MVP Join Date: Mar 2010 Casino cash: $10022775	If I were Don Mattingly I'd start my worst pitcher the next time the Dodgers play the Padres, and that guy's job would be to put the ball in Quentin's ear.
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