Uh oh, Dr Z ABSOLUTELY RIPS APART Trent Green (and BBQ!)... - Page 4

DaWolf · 11:03 AM

From the "I need some controversial statement ripping KC to generate discussion" department. Where was this comment on Trent Green when I needed it before the draft to discuss with Lamb fans why a first rounder is too much compensation? :)

[quote]From Tim of K.C.: "Suddenly all you beat writers seem to think that Elvis Grbac is the best thing to happen to the Ravens ... " I don't like to be addressed as "all you ... " How'd you like it if I said, "Well, all you BBQ eaters ... ?" Personally, I think BBQ is overrated. Take away sugar, and your barbecue would go poof. We seem to be straying. Oh yes, another thing. I'm not a beat writer. I'm a ... a ... (what am I, Linda?) "A beat-nik," she says. See what happens when you get started on an idiot topic? I haven't written a word about Elvis in Baltimore. I will now. Here it is: IMPROVEMENT . Trent Green in K.C.? He was kind of exposed when he had to carry the load in St. Louis. Not able to make the quick decisions or quick deliveries that Warner did. Who can? But still, a bit of the luster is off. [/quote]

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KCTitus · 06-18-2001, 01:06 PM

[i]as I am sure that many 'Skins fans feel the same way about the Chiefization of the Redskins. [/i] - This couldnt be further from the truth.

Most Skins fans are embracing the new regime with tempered optimism. For those that may not know, Donnell Bennett will be replacing the released Centers at FB. He will NOT be a RB. Lockett is going to be fighting for a starting WR spot.

There has been no discussion about the 'wholesale import' of another 'scheme'.

The biggest story as of late has been whether or not Marty will release Deion. They wont because they cannot afford the cap hit.

Packfan · 06-19-2001, 07:00 AM

Htmaq,

Gunter had "the worst staff in the history of the NFL..."

If they were so rotten, how come most of them found other jobs in the NFL?? Good ol boy network? Maybe. But as I said many, many times, you must have the talent. You cant win week in and week out by outsmarting/out hustling other teams. The Chiefs simply were outclassed most of the year in terms of talent. Thats not entirely the fault of the coaching staff. Most of the responsibility falls on the shoulders of the GM. Dont get me wrong, Gunter was in way over his head. He was the 2nd lowest paid head coach. Peterson got what he paid for.

Until the Chiefs get talent on both sides of the ball, you will continue to be confused and frustrated with your coaching staff.
The core problem with the Chiefs has and will continue to be the guy acquiring all these non-talented players/coaches.

06-19-2001, 07:45 AM

Pack,

You really have to ask? How do guys with long histories of failure continuously get coaching jobs every day? You answered your own question. I mean look where Jimmy Raye and Kurt got jobs -- with Marty.

The problem with last year's team WASN'T talent. Gunther's little "I'm quitting" thing after the FIRST GAME of the year set the tone.

We lost the Indy game due to poor playcalling on offense, and Grbac's interception. We lost the Tennessee game ONLY because of poor defensive playcalling. Combine that with Gunther's "I just need to get into more of the meetings and put my stamp on things" rants, and you have a team that lost all will to succeed.

Last year was 90% because of GUNTHER.

**Rausch** · 09-12-2002, 12:43 AM

Top....

Just to compare.....

Ultra Peanut · 09-12-2002, 02:36 AM

He can bash Green all he wants, but to say BBQ is overrated is a TOTALLY REPREHENSIBLE act. I should beat him to a bloody pulp with some ribs.

stevieray · 09-12-2002, 08:22 AM

Geeez. Take a look at the Rams since DV has left....Martz's ego has trickled down....They couldn't score against the Chiefs in preseason. And could barely score against the Donx. And the Rams have all the talent in the world. go for it on fourth and ten...? HAHA

DV, on the other hand, is about character and discipline....Dick has transformed this team in a huge way, in a year. Possibly the best Oline out there. Plus PH, TR, TG, WR, JM, EK. I can clearly see that DV was a big part of the Rams success, and has brought that to KC.

This season will prove the above statemnts.

KCinNY · 09-12-2002, 08:31 AM

BBQ overrated??

Them's fightin' words.

PRIEST · 09-12-2002, 08:45 AM

What Stevieray said . Martz's this time next year will be known as the putz that broke the lambs back:)

06-14-2001, 11:00 AM
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	Uh oh, Dr Z ABSOLUTELY RIPS APART Trent Green (and BBQ!)... From the "I need some controversial statement ripping KC to generate discussion" department. Where was this comment on Trent Green when I needed it before the draft to discuss with Lamb fans why a first rounder is too much compensation? :) [quote]From Tim of K.C.: "Suddenly all you beat writers seem to think that Elvis Grbac is the best thing to happen to the Ravens ... " I don't like to be addressed as "all you ... " How'd you like it if I said, "Well, all you BBQ eaters ... ?" Personally, I think BBQ is overrated. Take away sugar, and your barbecue would go poof. We seem to be straying. Oh yes, another thing. I'm not a beat writer. I'm a ... a ... (what am I, Linda?) "A beat-nik," she says. See what happens when you get started on an idiot topic? I haven't written a word about Elvis in Baltimore. I will now. Here it is: IMPROVEMENT . Trent Green in K.C.? He was kind of exposed when he had to carry the load in St. Louis. Not able to make the quick decisions or quick deliveries that Warner did. Who can? But still, a bit of the luster is off. [/quote] [url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/news/2001/06/08/drz_mailbag/[/url] Last edited by DaWolf; 06-14-2001 at 11:03 AM..
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06-18-2001, 01:06 PM	#46
KCTitus Archivist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Ethernet Casino cash: $9902732	[i]as I am sure that many 'Skins fans feel the same way about the Chiefization of the Redskins. [/i] - This couldnt be further from the truth. Most Skins fans are embracing the new regime with tempered optimism. For those that may not know, Donnell Bennett will be replacing the released Centers at FB. He will NOT be a RB. Lockett is going to be fighting for a starting WR spot. There has been no discussion about the 'wholesale import' of another 'scheme'. The biggest story as of late has been whether or not Marty will release Deion. They wont because they cannot afford the cap hit. __________________ Anything you post on this BB can and will be used against you...
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Packfan Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI, Door Casino cash: $10004900	Htmaq, Gunter had "the worst staff in the history of the NFL..." If they were so rotten, how come most of them found other jobs in the NFL?? Good ol boy network? Maybe. But as I said many, many times, you must have the talent. You cant win week in and week out by outsmarting/out hustling other teams. The Chiefs simply were outclassed most of the year in terms of talent. Thats not entirely the fault of the coaching staff. Most of the responsibility falls on the shoulders of the GM. Dont get me wrong, Gunter was in way over his head. He was the 2nd lowest paid head coach. Peterson got what he paid for. Until the Chiefs get talent on both sides of the ball, you will continue to be confused and frustrated with your coaching staff. The core problem with the Chiefs has and will continue to be the guy acquiring all these non-talented players/coaches. __________________ Ken Dienberg
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06-19-2001, 07:45 AM	#48
htismaqe Guest Casino cash: $	Pack, You really have to ask? How do guys with long histories of failure continuously get coaching jobs every day? You answered your own question. I mean look where Jimmy Raye and Kurt got jobs -- with Marty. The problem with last year's team WASN'T talent. Gunther's little "I'm quitting" thing after the FIRST GAME of the year set the tone. We lost the Indy game due to poor playcalling on offense, and Grbac's interception. We lost the Tennessee game ONLY because of poor defensive playcalling. Combine that with Gunther's "I just need to get into more of the meetings and put my stamp on things" rants, and you have a team that lost all will to succeed. Last year was 90% because of GUNTHER.
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09-12-2002, 02:36 AM	#50
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09-12-2002, 08:22 AM	#51
stevieray best in the biz Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Under Pressure Casino cash: $2595273	Geeez. Take a look at the Rams since DV has left....Martz's ego has trickled down....They couldn't score against the Chiefs in preseason. And could barely score against the Donx. And the Rams have all the talent in the world. go for it on fourth and ten...? HAHA DV, on the other hand, is about character and discipline....Dick has transformed this team in a huge way, in a year. Possibly the best Oline out there. Plus PH, TR, TG, WR, JM, EK. I can clearly see that DV was a big part of the Rams success, and has brought that to KC. This season will prove the above statemnts.
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PRIEST Wtf now Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cocoa Fl Casino cash: $3573207	What Stevieray said . Martz's this time next year will be known as the putz that broke the lambs back:)
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