Chiefs If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. - Page 123

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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**BossChief** · 05-14-2013, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

You do that a lot. When you do I hear: I've got nothing but my hate.

Haha the full blown homers call me a hater and the full blown pedalboard call me a homer.

Must mean I'm smack dab in-between the two sides.

Messier · 05-14-2013, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I'll proudly own up to this if Alex Smith wins a SB in KC.

But he couldn't do it on probably the best roster in football, so...

The best roster in football?

Messier · 05-14-2013, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Haha the full blown homers call me a hater and the full blown pedalboard call me a homer.

Must mean I'm smack dab in-between the two sides.

No, you're not.

jd1020 · 05-14-2013, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

The best roster in football?

Can you suggest another team in football that had a better 2-53 roster?

jd1020 · 05-14-2013, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

You won't have anything to be proud of if that happens, although I'm sure you'll do a 180 and jump on the bandwagon by then.

Depends. I'm not going to ignore him if he has a Steve Young post 29 year old career. But I'm also not going to jump on the Smith bandwagon if we win a SB in 2000 Ravens fashion.

Messier · 05-14-2013, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Can you suggest another team in football that had a better 2-53 roster?

Its all debatable, but Ravens, Falcons come to mind. And you talk like not getting them there means they went 9-7, and squeaked into the playoffs and got bounced. Losing in OT in the championship game the first year they put it all together = failure to you?

jd1020 · 05-14-2013, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

Its all debatable, but Ravens, Falcons come to mind. And you talk like not getting them there means they went 9-7, and squeaked into the playoffs and got bounced. Losing in OT in the championship game the first year they put it all together = failure to you?

All Smith had to do was show up to get them into the SB and what was he? Batting .050 on 3rd down?

Messier · 05-14-2013, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

All Smith had to do was show up to get them into the SB and what was he? Batting .050 on 3rd down?

Are you saying he lost them the championship game?

jd1020 · 05-14-2013, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

Its all debatable, but Ravens, Falcons come to mind. And you talk like not getting them there means they went 9-7, and squeaked into the playoffs and got bounced. Losing in OT in the championship game the first year they put it all together = failure to you?

The Falcons do not have a better roster than the 49ers and its not debatable. And I'd take the 49ers D over the Ravens D from the last 2 years.

2012 - 17.1 pts/g vs 21.5
2011 - 14.3 pts/g vs 16.6

jd1020 · 05-14-2013, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

Are you saying he lost them the championship game?

He certainly didn't win it.

**BossChief** · 05-14-2013, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

Are you saying he lost them the championship game?

What didhe do to help his team win that game?

Messier · 05-14-2013, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

What didhe do to help his team win that game?

Throw a few TDs, not turn it over. I blame tthe 4 fumbles two lost.

jd1020 · 05-14-2013, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

What didhe do to help his team win that game?

Completed 12 passes, obviously.

Messier · 05-14-2013, 08:52 AM

Did Smith have a bad game?

jd1020 · 05-14-2013, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

Did Smith have a bad game?

Compared to Alex Smith or elite QBs?

If you are comparing it to elite QBs, yup.

46% completion, <200 yards passing, 50%+ of those yards coming on 2 passes to Vernon Davis, and being beyond horrible on 3rd down.

If you compare it to Alex Smith? Par for the course.

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