Yep, Alex Smith is here to stay.

[In58men]

Hard to swallow.


What a horrible draft. Glad I didn't stick around for the whole thing. I would have wasted valuable time. Reid is a complete moron. Never go all in on a guy like Alex Smith. Your offseason is a complete joke.

That's all

[GordonGekko]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Lets be honest, Dallas is up and down and always loses games they shouldn't. Philly sucks, Jags suck, Raiders suck, Chargers suck, Bills suck, Browns suck, Titans are no better than us. They should have a shot to win all those games.

I also don't think teams like Washington or Indy are stupendous yet. This team has a shot to have a nice year.

Roger, I think suck is relative here though. There is 8-8 type suck which most of the teams you listed will be, and then there is suck coming off 2-14 with new HC and QB, and a horrible draft. If we get insanely lucky maybe 6 wins, maybe. But in 2011 I thought the Bills sucked and Lions sucked and they beat us by an average of 40.

[Kaepernick]

[QUOTE=ayleswbj;9641085]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

Is this the same Urban Meyer who recently predicted that Tim Tebow would win the super bowl?






Urban could if he wanted to have almost any NFL job available. He knows a bit more than us and whos to say that Tebow cant be good. He got railroaded this past year by the Jests whatever happend to letting a guy develop. Isnt this what everyone and there brother is bitching about not drafting Geno? Drafting a guy to develop. Tebow is a young guy, why cant he be developed in the right situation. This is what Meyer is talking about. What a terrible place to play QB in NY. It is a dam mess up there. Bet you wouldnt mind having a playoff win recently. The kid never even got the opportunity to compete. Thats all these guys ask for is a fair shake an the jets purposely didnt give him one because of the publicity and the money they gave sanchez. His future is still being written

Tebow will NEVER be accurate. Steve Young has said as much. Young said Tebow "throws like a catapult".

But I guess Urban Meyer would know better than a HoF QB who overcame huge inaccuracy problems early in his career to become a multiple league MVP and 2nd all time in QB passer rating.

You Alex fans are always all about QB passer rating.

I'm sure Meyer is as right about Alex as he is about Tebow. I.E., wrong.

[Simplicity]

[QUOTE=Kaepernick;9642291]

Originally Posted by ayleswbj

Tebow will NEVER be accurate. Steve Young has said as much. Young said Tebow "throws like a catapult".

But I guess Urban Meyer would know better than a HoF QB who overcame huge inaccuracy problems early in his career to become a multiple league MVP and 2nd all time in QB passer rating.

You Alex fans are always all about QB passer rating.

I'm sure Meyer is as right about Alex as he is about Tebow. I.E., wrong.

Gonna guess you were one of those bundle of stickss that wanted to draft a QB this years draft thinking that you would get something from it.

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by philfree

There are no guarantees though. We just had the first pick in the draft and although I kind of like our draft it wasn't really all that wonderful of position to be in. I guess we could go O-fer until the next Andy Luck came along in ten years.

No, there are never guarantees. I'm just saying as a fan, I can wait through terrible seasons if I know my GM is methodically building a champion. I would rather go through terrible seasons while that happens, then be a perennial 9-7 team and say we had 80 consecutive winning seasons.

Lombardi's are the only goal. Sucking is the way to improve if you have a great GM. If your owner/front office sucks, then 6-10 vs 10-6 every year doesn't make much difference. You are never going to feel the exhilaration of the super bowl chase or the euphoria of your team winning it all. I would rather multiple suckage years that give a good GM the chance to build a champion.

[Mecca]

This is what I'll say, while I don't think the front office sucks, I'm not a fan of Alex Smith but it appears everyone in the NFL hated all of the QB's in the draft.

[Simplicity]

Originally Posted by GordonGekko

Roger, I think suck is relative here though. There is 8-8 type suck which most of the teams you listed will be, and then there is suck coming off 2-14 with new HC and QB, and a horrible draft. If we get insanely lucky maybe 6 wins, maybe. But in 2011 I thought the Bills sucked and Lions sucked and they beat us by an average of 40.

New HC is Andy Reid, a veteran winning coach (don't even try to argue that shit bundle of sticks) New QB led the league in competion rate and TDs/Yards before he was injured 10 games in. The draft class blew shit anyways and we had a great draft with the lack of talent in it. We have all the pieces and even pieces behind pieces. and all you bundle of stickss think we are only going to win 6. So much ****ing idiots.

[Dave Lane]

[QUOTE=Kaepernick;9642291]

Originally Posted by ayleswbj

Tebow will NEVER be accurate. Steve Young has said as much. Young said Tebow "throws like a catapult".

But I guess Urban Meyer would know better than a HoF QB who overcame huge inaccuracy problems early in his career to become a multiple league MVP and 2nd all time in QB passer rating.

You Alex fans are always all about QB passer rating.

I'm sure Meyer is as right about Alex as he is about Tebow. I.E., wrong.

What the **** is up with these Alex Smith sycophant morons? Is it a mormon thing? I know he's a mormon from a Utah team, is that the connection? I can't understand why we are infested with these idiots and their excuse making, undying love for Alex Smiff.

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Trent Green was never an accurate downfield passer. In fact, he very rarely threw the ball downfield. His yardage stats were seriously skewed by how awesome that team was at running screens with Priest Holmes behind Willie Roaf and Will Shields. Green rarely threw the ball downfield. Tony Gonzales, a TE was his most frequent downfield target. if 10 yard hooks are downfield. We never really had a WR of any note whatsoever in those years. It was all Holmes and Gonzales. Sound like anyone else we know?

Dude, you've made your mind up. I think you're premature. Whatever. Have fun...not having fun, I guess.

When has Alex Smith been called an accurate downfield passer? Link, please?

He is accurate beneath the linebackers. Deep, not so much. Last year Alex had a career game against the Buffalo Bills. On the post game show, ex-WR Dwight Clark stated that Alex Smith has never been known as an accurate passer, but that he was deadly accurate against the Bills, hitting receivers in stride and putting the ball right on the hands of his receivers.

Filled me with hope.

Then came the Seahawks game where he could not even find a wide, wide open Randy Moss wildly waving his arms running the full length of the end zone while Frank Gore pointed him out to Alex. Still ended in an interception.

Then came the 3-pick game vs the Giants.

Good-bye downfield accuracy. Well, at least he had it for his career game vs. the Bills.

Maybe I am wrong and Alex is Drew Brees, Jr. Just don't act surprised when you see his downfield accuracy lacking.

Then cm

[Mecca]

[QUOTE=Dave Lane;9642346]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

What the **** is up with these Alex Smith sycophant morons? Is it a mormon thing? I know he's a mormon from a Utah team, is that the connection? I can't understand why we are infested with these idiots and their excuse making, undying love for Alex Smiff.

Dude Utah isn't a Mormon school that's BYU.

[Tangeuray]

Originally Posted by Simplicity

News flash: Haven't played a game with Alex Smith yet and already you guys sound like a prude bitch. What kind of draft were you expecting with this horrid draft class?

This is why I love this board.....cant get away with that at the 49ers board.

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by 94niners

Alex Smith was actually pretty accurate on deep passes (passes traveling 20 yards or more). The problem is that he doesn't take chances enough on them. He checks it down WAY too much. He's going to be a 15-25 guy for you. He will not cost you many games, which means you won't be a joke any more.

Sadly, this also means it will be harder for you to get a real franchise quarterback (although the 49ers got on in the 2nd round, the Seahawks got on in the 3rd, and the Patriots got on in the 6th).

Prove he was accurate on passes over 20 yards.

It would be more accurate to say he had a very high completion % on passes>20 yards. Accuracy? Or is that just because he refused to throw the rock unless his receiver had burned the defense and was wide open, where an errant throw couldn't possibly result in an INT. Where even if he was not particularly accurate, the receiver could still adjust and make the catch.

Drew brees is accurate on passes over 20 yards. He will put the ball in a small window.

Alex has a high completion % on passes over 20 yards because he is ultra cautious and very selective throwing passes over 20 yards. If the 20 yard receiver is covered on 3rd and 14, then he throws a 5 yard pass to Crabtree and hopes for 10 YAC.

"Efficiency" is not the same thing as "accuracy".

[Dave Lane]

[QUOTE=Mecca;9642350]

Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Dude Utah isn't a Mormon school that's BYU.

I saw a SLCChiefs fan so I assumed a Utah connection and maybe rooting for a mormon. I still don't get it.

[Mecca]

What he's saying explains something..they draft an OT and a TE that can run...

Basically you use the running game to stay out of long yardage or quick hits to TE's and WR's...you have a dominant line that gives him all day so players can get wide open downfield...it all comes together.

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

This kind of scares me even more now if he hangs JC out to dry in the flats. If he can get the ball to JC in time to make a move then maybe it would work out. I don't trust Alex Smith getting a passing game going and not getting our guys killed.

I have to say he was very good at not getting Gore killed in SF. I can't say if that was Alex or play calling, but I don't think you have to worry about Alex hanging Charles out to dry and getting him plastered.

See, I always have something good to say about Alex!

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

Prove he was accurate on passes over 20 yards.

It would be more accurate to say he had a very high completion % on passes>20 yards. Accuracy? Or is that just because he refused to throw the rock unless his receiver had burned the defense and was wide open, where an errant throw couldn't possibly result in an INT. Where even if he was not particularly accurate, the receiver could still adjust and make the catch.

Drew brees is accurate on passes over 20 yards. He will put the ball in a small window.

Alex has a high completion % on passes over 20 yards because he is ultra cautious and very selective throwing passes over 20 yards. If the 20 yard receiver is covered on 3rd and 14, then he throws a 5 yard pass to Crabtree and hopes for 10 YAC.

"Efficiency" is not the same thing as "accuracy".

Another thing to consider is ball placement, which IMO is tied in very heavily with accuracy but something most people on message boards don't talk about.