Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 477

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

duncan_idaho · 07-16-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DeepSouth

Duncan, Totally different topic; Since you know more about the minors that most, what's the deal with Matt Fields? He's 27 and from what I can tell, never done much up to this point. But now, for the Naturals, he has 24 homers already this season. Is he a late bloomer, ballpark HR friendly, juicing, etc..... ? thanks,

The hope, I think, would be that Fields is the next Daniel Nava... guy who bounced through a few systems, never had huge hype, went to Indy ball and raked, and made the most of a second chance. When he signed with KC, Fields was a year older than Nava was when he signed with Boston, but the stories are similar.

It sounds like the power is real. He played some OF in the independent league but I'm doubtful he could hack it at the MLB level, or he'd be even more intriguing.

Mother****erJones · 07-16-2013, 01:17 PM

Royals claimed INF Pedro Ciriaco off waivers from the Padres.
Ciriaco, 27, was designated for assignment on Friday. He's batting just .228/.288/.342 with two home runs and eight steals in 51 games this season and should serve in a utility role with the Royals.

I remember this guy with the Red Sox

Three7s · 07-16-2013, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Royals claimed INF Pedro Ciriaco off waivers from the Padres.
Ciriaco, 27, was designated for assignment on Friday. He's batting just .228/.288/.342 with two home runs and eight steals in 51 games this season and should serve in a utility role with the Royals.

I remember this guy with the Red Sox

Batting .228? Sounds like he'll fit right in with our mashers.

DeepSouth · 07-16-2013, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

Batting .228? Sounds like he'll fit right in with our mashers.

What will the Royals do with him. Won't they have to release someone from the 25 and 40 man roster. Will they send Gio back to Omaha so this guy can become the everyday 2nd baseman?

**DeezNutz** · 07-16-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepSouth

What will the Royals do with him. Won't they have to release someone from the 25 and 40 man roster. Will they send Gio back to Omaha so this guy can become the everyday 2nd baseman?

Al Bundy · 07-16-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Royals claimed INF Pedro Ciriaco off waivers from the Padres.
Ciriaco, 27, was designated for assignment on Friday. He's batting just .228/.288/.342 with two home runs and eight steals in 51 games this season and should serve in a utility role with the Royals.

I remember this guy with the Red Sox

He sucks and will be our starting second baseman.

mr. tegu · 07-16-2013, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated

So where's the outrage over those "classless" Mets fans booing Robinson Cano?

Did they really boo him again? How bad?

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-16-2013, 05:43 PM

About time they found a bat to replace Frenchy.

Great Expectations · 07-16-2013, 07:24 PM

Dumbass media

**gblowfish** · 07-16-2013, 07:26 PM

I'd say Buck O'Neil was a better ambassador than Joe Torre. But guess who's NOT in the HOF???

teedubya · 07-16-2013, 08:30 PM

Holland pitched to Perez... and the ball was hit to Gordon. All 3 Royals were involved in same play in the All Star Game.

ChiefsCountry · 07-16-2013, 09:04 PM

By the way Hosmer and Moose are at the Lake of the Ozarks right now.
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Great Expectations · 07-16-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

By the way Hosmer and Moose are at the Lake of the Ozarks right now.
Posted via Mobile Device

Sounds like fun,would you rather them be in a convent?

ChiefsCountry · 07-16-2013, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations

Sounds like fun,would you rather them be in a convent?

Just a PSA.
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Raiderhater · 07-16-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations

Sounds like fun,would you rather them be in a convent?

Moose should be at batting practice.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1670308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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