Benson to KC - Page 3

Archie Bunker · 09:36 PM

According the Gammons the Royals are trading Affeldt and MacDougal to the Mets for Kris Benson.

I cant wait for his wife to hit the town.

http://www.rotoworld.com/

ESPN's Peter Gammons is reporting that Kris Benson is on his way to the Royals for Jeremy Affeldt and Mike MacDougal.
Metsblog.com's Matthew Cerrone says it might be a prospect instead of MacDougal along with Affledt. The Royals can't give up both relievers for the right to pay Benson $15 million over the next two years.

beavis · 12-06-2005, 11:00 PM

Affeldt and a prospect... ok. Affeldt and MacDougal is reeruned.

**gblowfish** · 12-06-2005, 11:00 PM

The Royals' Wives Food Drive just became a must attend event. I'll gladly give her canned goods...write bad checks....crawl through a mile of broken glass to hear her fart on a pay phone....Did I say that out loud?

Miles · 12-06-2005, 11:16 PM

Not a bad trade. Benson has been mediocre for most of his career but has pretty good stuff. He may finally be able to put it together.

After his wife complaining earlier this week, this trade is pretty damn funny.

Sure-Oz · 12-06-2005, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

The Royals' Wives Food Drive just became a must attend event. I'll gladly give her canned goods...write bad checks....crawl through a mile of broken glass to hear her fart on a pay phone....Did I say that out loud?

no shit i bet bob davis and split would love to get her in the booth lol

Mecca · 12-06-2005, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

no shit i bet bob davis and split would love to get her in the booth lol

Bob's looking for his Viagra at this very moment, he wants to be prepared.

**gblowfish** · 12-06-2005, 11:47 PM

Oooooh...Daddy Like!
Definitely trade for this guy. Hell, If we're gonna lose 100 games, we might as well have some hot wives hanging around.
Check this out:
http://www.annabenson.net/

siberian khatru · 12-07-2005, 12:03 AM

Man, I really wish I had remembered to start the "Why the Royals need to trade for Kris Benson" thread earlier today complete with Anna picks. Just got busy and forgot. Oh well.

I'm OK with Benson; I saw these rumors a few days ago and thought it would be a good deal for KC, although I would prefer to hang on to Mac. But again, they've got a lot of good young arms behind him, he'll be aribitration eligible in a year or so, I don't think he'll ever be an elite-type closer. So good riddance if he's part of the deal.

I really don't want Jacque Jones if it's for the contract terms speculated on a few days ago. And I sure as heck don't want Aaron Miles as the 2B.

But Benson for 2 years, I can stomach.

HolmeZz · 12-07-2005, 12:06 AM

Speaking as a Met fan, I think we just pulled a fast one on you guys.

I suppose Benson'll be a bit of an improvement over what the Royals usually trot out to the mound, but he's probably not worth the contract. Considering you gave us pretty good bullpen help, I'll take it.

Frees up money for Manny or Zito too.

tk13 · 12-07-2005, 12:23 AM

Yeah, the Mets board seems to be pretty happy with the deal, at least if we include MacDougal. I don't know, I don't really wanna give up Mac. Affeldt needs a change of scenery. I really question their mental toughness pitching in NY though. I kinda view those guys the same way I do Beltran, talented but they aren't real tough guys, and Beltran didn't light the world on fire under NYC pressure last year. If Affeldt goes through a slump or two it'll be interesting to see how he responds to the heat. He couldn't do it very well in KC, NYC will be a whole different ballgame.

HolmeZz · 12-07-2005, 12:25 AM

You figure if it's not MacDougal, it'll be a pretty good prospect. And probably an arm.

tk13 · 12-07-2005, 12:36 AM

MacDougal is about the ceiling on pitching prospects we'd be willing to trade. At least for somebody like Kris Benson. If it's somebody else they won't be MLB ready most likely.

tk13 · 12-07-2005, 02:26 AM

Excerpts from this morning's KC Star....

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/13345454.htm

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Although the Royals are believed to be the leading contender for Benson, a 31-year-old right-hander, general manager Allard Baird said late Tuesday night that the teams weren’t close to a deal.

Unless they were blown away by a proposed trade, the Royals did not plan on packaging MacDougal and Affeldt together in a deal, a Royals source said.

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Mac really had a hell of a year,” Bell said. “And Affeldt, the last month, was as good as anybody we had.”

Both pitchers were commodities Tuesday. The Royals have discussed a deal including one of the relievers for Toronto second baseman Orlando Hudson. Another proposed deal included a twist: One of the relievers and shortstop Angel Berroa going to Atlanta for one of the Braves’ young corner outfielders — either Kelly Johnson or Ryan Langerhans — and another top prospect. The Braves are also engaged in a deal that would land them Red Sox shortstop Edgar Renteria, according to the Boston Globe.

Still, Baird said, although the Royals began Tuesday in a trading mode, they were back in the free-agent market by the middle of the day.

Bell said the Royals remain interested in outfielder Reggie Sanders. The Royals also are among the final three teams courting outfielder Jacque Jones, along with the Orioles and Mariners.

huskerdooz · 12-07-2005, 04:11 AM

I know I'm in the minority here, but I would like to see them keep Affeldt. Teach him a cut fastball and stick him in the rotation and leave him there.

Mecca · 12-07-2005, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by huskerdooz

I know I'm in the minority here, but I would like to see them keep Affeldt. Teach him a cut fastball and stick him in the rotation and leave him there.

He's never going to be good here. The Royals haven't figured him out and have just screwed him up. They might aswell get something for him from a team that thinks they can figure him out.

tk13 · 12-07-2005, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by huskerdooz

I know I'm in the minority here, but I would like to see them keep Affeldt. Teach him a cut fastball and stick him in the rotation and leave him there.

I was over reading the Mets board... a blurb posted over there said that was part of the problem, the Royals kept pushing MacDougal and the Mets kept asking for Affeldt.

I think Affeldt could really use a change of scenery, but I like the logic in not trading him. With Affeldt's stuff, it's wiser to at least try to go after a gold glover like Orlando Hudson or a couple really good young players from the Braves, over a career .500 guy like Benson.

12-06-2005, 09:11 PM
Archie Bunker The Wait Is Over Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Random Small Town Casino cash: $2008978	Benson to KC According the Gammons the Royals are trading Affeldt and MacDougal to the Mets for Kris Benson. I cant wait for his wife to hit the town. http://www.rotoworld.com/ ESPN's Peter Gammons is reporting that Kris Benson is on his way to the Royals for Jeremy Affeldt and Mike MacDougal. Metsblog.com's Matthew Cerrone says it might be a prospect instead of MacDougal along with Affledt. The Royals can't give up both relievers for the right to pay Benson $15 million over the next two years. Last edited by Archie Bunker; 12-06-2005 at 09:36 PM..
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12-06-2005, 11:00 PM	#31
beavis Free Born Man of the USA Join Date: May 2003 Casino cash: $9954900	Affeldt and a prospect... ok. Affeldt and MacDougal is reeruned.
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12-06-2005, 11:00 PM	#32
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17666178 VARSITY	The Royals' Wives Food Drive just became a must attend event. I'll gladly give her canned goods...write bad checks....crawl through a mile of broken glass to hear her fart on a pay phone....Did I say that out loud?
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12-06-2005, 11:16 PM	#33
Miles MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Casino cash: $1652400	Not a bad trade. Benson has been mediocre for most of his career but has pretty good stuff. He may finally be able to put it together. After his wife complaining earlier this week, this trade is pretty damn funny.
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12-06-2005, 11:47 PM	#36
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17666178 VARSITY	Oooooh...Daddy Like! Definitely trade for this guy. Hell, If we're gonna lose 100 games, we might as well have some hot wives hanging around. Check this out: http://www.annabenson.net/
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12-07-2005, 12:03 AM	#37
siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $2534950	Man, I really wish I had remembered to start the "Why the Royals need to trade for Kris Benson" thread earlier today complete with Anna picks. Just got busy and forgot. Oh well. I'm OK with Benson; I saw these rumors a few days ago and thought it would be a good deal for KC, although I would prefer to hang on to Mac. But again, they've got a lot of good young arms behind him, he'll be aribitration eligible in a year or so, I don't think he'll ever be an elite-type closer. So good riddance if he's part of the deal. I really don't want Jacque Jones if it's for the contract terms speculated on a few days ago. And I sure as heck don't want Aaron Miles as the 2B. But Benson for 2 years, I can stomach.
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12-07-2005, 12:06 AM	#38
HolmeZz i guess its bittersweet poetry Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NeW HaVeN, CT Casino cash: $10004900	Speaking as a Met fan, I think we just pulled a fast one on you guys. I suppose Benson'll be a bit of an improvement over what the Royals usually trot out to the mound, but he's probably not worth the contract. Considering you gave us pretty good bullpen help, I'll take it. Frees up money for Manny or Zito too.
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12-07-2005, 12:23 AM	#39
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1972500	Yeah, the Mets board seems to be pretty happy with the deal, at least if we include MacDougal. I don't know, I don't really wanna give up Mac. Affeldt needs a change of scenery. I really question their mental toughness pitching in NY though. I kinda view those guys the same way I do Beltran, talented but they aren't real tough guys, and Beltran didn't light the world on fire under NYC pressure last year. If Affeldt goes through a slump or two it'll be interesting to see how he responds to the heat. He couldn't do it very well in KC, NYC will be a whole different ballgame.
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12-07-2005, 12:25 AM	#40
HolmeZz i guess its bittersweet poetry Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NeW HaVeN, CT Casino cash: $10004900	You figure if it's not MacDougal, it'll be a pretty good prospect. And probably an arm.
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12-07-2005, 12:36 AM	#41
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1972500	MacDougal is about the ceiling on pitching prospects we'd be willing to trade. At least for somebody like Kris Benson. If it's somebody else they won't be MLB ready most likely.
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12-07-2005, 04:11 AM	#43
huskerdooz Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Can't get there from here Casino cash: $9929885	I know I'm in the minority here, but I would like to see them keep Affeldt. Teach him a cut fastball and stick him in the rotation and leave him there.
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