Chiefs Andy blames himself, not Alex, for Chiefs' sputtering offense - Page 23

ShowtimeSBMVP · 10-16-2013, 10:05 AM

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- When you're 6-0 and coming off a 2-14 season, there really shouldn't be any complaining.

There can't be a football fan or scout or executive anywhere on the planet who could have forecast the amazing turnaround general manager John Dorsey and coach Andy Reid have conducted with the Chiefs -- certainly not to the extent of a 6-0 start.

But -- and isn't there always a but? -- there is one small area of concern that even Reid himself continues to address: a sluggish offense.

The Chiefs are 25th in the NFL in offense, chugging along at just 326 yards per game, a remarkably low figure for a team unbeaten this far into the season.

No one is more aware of the offense's struggles than Reid. The offense is his baby.

"Listen, I'm never going to make excuses," Reid said Monday. "That's not how we roll here. But the reality of it is we're a little young, but we have to get better.

"I see some phases we're getting better at. But I've got to do a better job of getting these guys in the right position to succeed. We've all got a little piece of the pie to get things right. We're learning on the fly, but we're going to get better."

The Chiefs likely will have to. Fans in this area have seen this script before. They've seen the Chiefs' teams of the 1990s soar through the regular season on the strength of their overpowering defenses and elite special teams.

Then those fans saw the same teams misfire in the postseason, mainly because the offense couldn't step up and contribute when it had to.

To avoid revisiting that script, the Chiefs must get more production out of quarterback Alex Smith, whose numbers keep sinking.

Smith is 26th in the league in passing yards at just 221.7 per game. He's also 20th in the league with a passer rating of 79.8.

But if you're looking for Reid to point any fingers toward Smith, you'll have a long wait.

Reid knows what kind of team he has. He knows, outside of Jamaal Charles and at times Dwayne Bowe, he doesn't have an explosive offense.

Reid also knows you can win in this league simply by not messing up, and letting the opponent beat itself. The Chiefs are No. 1 in the league in turnover ratio at plus-12, and don't have the appearance of a team that will beat itself anytime soon.

"Not turning the ball over is very important to us," Reid said, "especially when you have a solid defense like we have and the kicking game we have, both from our punter and our kicker."

In that respect, Smith is giving Reid all he needs, even if the offense has that familiar conservative look of the '90s. After all, there is a fine line between wanting more offensive production, and opening the offense up so much that more turnovers occur. Reid isn't likely to stand for that.

"You want to always start off by protecting the ball," Reid said. "There's no fine line there for me. ...

"Alex is doing that. And we need to point out the way Alex continues to manage this offense."

And that is the key in Reid's mind: He simply wants Smith to manage the game, which also includes managing the different personalities in the huddle.

"We've got a guy at quarterback, this kid, he's a stud," Reid said. "The things he does for this team is unbelievable. He's making people around him better. He takes the blame for things -- that's what good leaders do.

"At the same time, he's able to teach and explain to other guys with a clear head. Those are valuable things for us as coaches to see. I'm very pleased with the job (Smith) is doing."

In Reid's mind, let the other quarterbacks around the league possess the pretty passing numbers; Reid will take the ultimate one that counts. That is, for now, 6-0.

Still, Reid also has been around long enough to know that his offense will have to improve as the season wears on, even if it's just incrementally.

And that will be up to Reid himself as the play-caller and architect of the offense, something Reid has mentioned almost every week.

"I think we have done some good things, but we have plenty to work on," Reid said. "I don't think I've done a very good job of putting guys in position to make plays. That has been obvious at times. I have to do a better job."

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houston_pressure · 10-17-2013, 10:42 PM

Tony G says he's not jumping ship

Ace Gunner · 10-17-2013, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by houston_pressure

Tony G says he's not jumping ship

not this time?

mattschiefs · 10-17-2013, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

We are 12th in the NFL in YPC.

The running game is decent.

The passing game is a turd.

I hate to break this to you (ok I lied I don't hate it) But

Alex Smith is a part of the YPC

He has 37 rushes for 190 yards for a 5.1 YPC average.

Why don't you haters give him one once of credit for the plays he has made with his legs? Looking at his total numbers Alex hasn't been nearly as bad as you make him out to be in terms of yards.

Hammock Parties · 10-17-2013, 10:55 PM

We don't score because of him, though.

Sucks.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2013, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

We have a poor offense that scores under 20 PPG.

It is what it is.

**BossChief** · 10-17-2013, 11:03 PM

It's a shame Kelce got hurt, too.

He could have developed into a game changer. Hopefully they treat the injury correctly and he is able to return next year with a chip on his shoulder. No pun intended.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2013, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

We don't score because of him, though.

Sucks.

You don't score because of you

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2013, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

It's a shame Kelce got hurt, too.

He could have developed into a game changer. Hopefully they treat the injury correctly and he is able to return next year with a chip on his shoulder. No pun intended.

The draft results have been an unmitigated disaster

Ace Gunner · 10-17-2013, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

We don't score because of him, though.

Sucks.

If they don't score often from inside the 20, then I'd agree with this. show me that is the case.

mattschiefs · 10-17-2013, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

It's a shame Kelce got hurt, too.

He could have developed into a game changer. Hopefully they treat the injury correctly and he is able to return next year with a chip on his shoulder. No pun intended.

Yes it is

TE is a spot it just seems this team is cursed at since Tony left.

Hammock Parties · 10-17-2013, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace Gunner

If they don't score often from inside the 20, then I'd agree with this. show me that is the case.

We average 2 offensive TDs per game, good for 22nd.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat...downs-per-game

Also, how many actual real offensive drives (not after turnovers) starting after kickoffs/punts have we scored a TD on? I don't care to go back and look but I bet it's not many. We're probably near the bottom of the league in drives over 50 yards.

Simply Red · 10-17-2013, 11:22 PM

This D will shoot it's jizz all over Alex's mediocre offense. GUYS we will get points on top of Alex's drives from this stallion Defense.

Ace Gunner · 10-17-2013, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

We average 2 offensive TDs per game, good for 22nd.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat...downs-per-game

Also, how many actual real offensive drives (not after turnovers) starting after kickoffs/punts have we scored a TD on? I don't care to go back and look but I bet it's not many. We're probably near the bottom of the league in drives over 50 yards.

well, that's the stuff we need to look at. there are plenty of QB's that have moved the football up & down the field, but then don't get points. you can still put blame on the OL in some cases, but if the stat line for scores inside the 20 are few, you can pretty much bet the QB and coach has something to do with that stat.

**Anyong Bluth** · 10-18-2013, 01:57 AM

Get your mojo risin'

A warparty is on the move, and there's gonna be an old fashioned Texan slaughter!

**Easy 6** · 10-18-2013, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Get your mojo risin'

A warparty is on the move, and there's gonna be an old fashioned Texan slaughter!

Awesome, i want this on a t-shirt.

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