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Old 01-13-2013, 05:00 PM   #1
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I don't know what to tell you King, other than you are wrong.

and Flacco proved you wrong.

If you have a shot to win a game on a 3rd and 7 with a QB who is pretty good at 7 yard passes you *HERM VOICE* PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!

you don't punt it back to the other team just so you can bleed another 35 seconds off the clock

and Flacco showed you why

how do you not understand this? Are you Marty's kid?
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:05 PM   #2
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I don't know what to tell you King, other than you are wrong.

and Flacco proved you wrong.

How the **** did he prove me wrong? Because he threw a 70 yard fluke bomb?

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If you have a shot to win a game on a 3rd and 7 with a QB who is pretty good at 7 yard passes you *HERM VOICE* PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!
I thought he was a choker?

If YOU admit that he's a choker, then how the hell can you say that he should have the ball in his hands in a crucial late game situation? Can't have it both ways.
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:09 PM   #3
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How the **** did he prove me wrong? Because he threw a 70 yard fluke bomb?



I thought he was a choker?

If YOU admit that he's a choker, then how the hell can you say that he should have the ball in his hands in a crucial late game situation? Can't have it both ways.
If Peyton found a way to turn that into a pick 6, that's on him. Not Fox. I don't know what to tell you. Peyton is a superstar, if he's a choker, he's a choker...but you let your best player win games for you if given the situation.

I honestly don't know why you are so thick headed here. You realize you're the only one that agrees with the run on that 3rd down call on this website? I've yet to see one post that is like "yeah, you run there."

MAYBE if Denver's defense wasn't playing like shit and MAYBE if Joe Flacco hadn't already scored one TD against that very same prevent defense at the end of the first half and MAYBE if you don't have Peyton Manning.

that's a lot of maybes
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:24 PM   #4
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If Peyton found a way to turn that into a pick 6, that's on him. Not Fox. I don't know what to tell you. Peyton is a superstar, if he's a choker, he's a choker...but you let your best player win games for you if given the situation.

I honestly don't know why you are so thick headed here. You realize you're the only one that agrees with the run on that 3rd down call on this website? I've yet to see one post that is like "yeah, you run there."

MAYBE if Denver's defense wasn't playing like shit and MAYBE if Joe Flacco hadn't already scored one TD against that very same prevent defense at the end of the first half and MAYBE if you don't have Peyton Manning.

that's a lot of maybes
And maybe if Manning didn't have a history of melting down at crucial points in postseason games, he'd be trusted more. But...


But in that situation, you have to take the most time off the clock as possible.

But hey, according to you, 1:15 is the same as 1:50 so I don't think clock management is your strong suite.

Once again, you can't say somebody is a choker and then insist that they should have the ball in their hands in crucial late game situations. That's a contradiction.
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:27 PM   #5
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And maybe if Manning didn't have a history of melting down at crucial points in postseason games, he'd be trusted more. But...


But in that situation, you have to take the most time off the clock as possible.

But hey, according to you, 1:15 is the same as 1:50 so I don't think clock management is your strong suite.

Once again, you can't say somebody is a choker and then insist that they should have the ball in their hands in crucial late game situations. That's a contradiction.
in that situation...the difference between 1:15 and 1:50 wasn't enough to warrant not trying to win the game right then and there by passing the ball on 3rd and 7

if it left 30 seconds on the clock that's one thing...then you go ahead and run and punt

anything over a minute, you pass

1:00, even with no timeouts, is MORE than enough time to at least get to a position where you can throw a couple of passes into the end zone, especially against a prevent defense.

whether or not Peyton is a choker is irrelevant

the fact you don't grasp this basic concept makes me think less of you

not a big sports fan?!!?

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Old 01-13-2013, 05:30 PM   #6
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And maybe if Manning didn't have a history of melting down at crucial points in postseason games, he'd be trusted more. But...


But in that situation, you have to take the most time off the clock as possible.

But hey, according to you, 1:15 is the same as 1:50 so I don't think clock management is your strong suite.

Once again, you can't say somebody is a choker and then insist that they should have the ball in their hands in crucial late game situations. That's a contradiction.
It really isn't a contradiction.

I don't care if it's Matt Cassel in that situation, I am going for the first down.

I know full well that the chances are very good that Matt Cassel ****s up, but I am going down swinging, regardless.

I am not going to throw in the towel.

Playing not to lose leads to losing.

I'd rather lose aggressively than lose like a pussy.
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:34 PM   #7
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It really isn't a contradiction.

I don't care if it's Matt Cassel in that situation, I am going for the first down.

I know full well that the chances are very good that Matt Cassel ****s up, but I am going down swinging, regardless.

I am not going to throw in the towel.

Playing not to lose leads to losing.

I'd rather lose aggressively than lose like a pussy.
I don't consider running the ball on 3rd and 7 with less than 2:00 left and with the opponent having no timeouts playing not to lose.
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:34 PM   #8
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I don't consider running the ball on 3rd and 7 with less than 2:00 left and with the opponent having no timeouts playing not to lose.
and Marty is your favorite coach
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I don't consider running the ball on 3rd and 7 with less than 2:00 left and with the opponent having no timeouts playing not to lose.
In a passing league,where all the rules favor the offense, especially inside of two minutes, it is absolutely playing not to lose.
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I don't consider running the ball on 3rd and 7 with less than 2:00 left and with the opponent having no timeouts playing not to lose.
And a 7 point lead.

If I were a Bronco fan, I'd probably be pissed as hell that the Ravens scored to tie the game. Should have never ever happened. The QB slightly underthrew the WR too. Morris really screwed the pooch on that play.

But I might have been even more pissed if we would have passed... had it be incomplete... and have the Ravens tie it right at the end due to the extra time on the clock.

Even if the first down does seal the deal.

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I honestly don't know why you are so thick headed here. You realize you're the only one that agrees with the run on that 3rd down call on this website? I've yet to see one post that is like "yeah, you run there."
On that same token, no one other than CoMo is really backing you up. In the game thread, the only other person that made a big deal out of it was KC_Connection.


CoMo and KC_Connection are not a group of people I'd be proud to have on my side...
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On that same token, no one other than CoMo is really backing you up. In the game thread, the only other person that made a big deal out of it was KC_Connection.


CoMo and KC_Connection are not a group of people I'd be proud to have on my side...
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How the **** did he prove me wrong? Because he threw a 70 yard fluke bomb?



I thought he was a choker?

If YOU admit that he's a choker, then how the hell can you say that he should have the ball in his hands in a crucial late game situation? Can't have it both ways.
So do you think Fox made the right call by running the ball then, taking it out of Manning's hands on 3rd n 7?

Can you give me a real answer that's not ridiculous ?
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