Football Expectations and Alex Smith - Page 28

keg in kc · 03-23-2013, 03:29 PM

Just curious. Inspired by the ongoing thread about "Geno fan" expectations, and I'm curious what the thinking is on the other side of the fence. What do people expect out of Alex Smith over the next, let's say, 2-5 years? Specifics, even, yardage and TDs, wins and losses, offensive rankings, etc. This is not a thread with an agenda, I'm genuinely curious what people think, so let's try to keep this from turning into snipe thread #368.

KC_Lee · 03-25-2013, 02:06 PM

My prediction / expectation for Alex Smith; 2750 yard, 18 TD, 10 INT

Giving KC a record of 9 - 7.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-25-2013, 02:33 PM

Sub 3k? Not if he plays 16 games. Reid isn't going to turn into Herm. He'll throw the ball much more than in SanFran.

opposition · 03-25-2013, 03:39 PM

Season stats:
Alex Smith-19-0

458 yards, .00043 ypc, 24 td's, 3 int's

Geno Smith-0-0
0/4, 0%, -4 td's, 4 int's, -395 yards, 45 sacks

Beeker · 03-25-2013, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Then you have not been listening to the cynics at all. The cynics (such as myself) recognize that Alex Smith will play us straight to first-round playoff exit mediocrity. And then we will never again be in position to draft a franchise QB who can actually take us to the dance.

Yeah, because Franchise QB's ONLY ever come out of the first round, right?

Discuss Thrower · 03-25-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Beeker

Yeah, because Franchise QB's ONLY ever come out of the first round, right?

Outside of Brad freaking Johnson, Tom Brady and Drew Brees yes.

Beeker · 03-25-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

A second round pick and a third round pick equate to a mid to late first.

The 34th pick is worth 580 draft value points. The 16th pick in the second round is worth 420 points....that equates to 1000 points, which is what the 16th pick in the first round is worth. If we only give up a third next year That's worth 190 points, added to the 580 we give up this year, that's 770 points given up...the equivalent of the 21st pick in the first round.

So, yes, we did give up a first round pick worth of draft compensation for Alex Smith.

Draft pick value blah blah blah

The ONLY value in a draft pick is what the player does for your team. All these arbitrary numbers you keep spitting out mean absolutely NOTHING. It's a second and a conditional third ... NOT A FIRST ... jfc

Nightfyre · 03-25-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Beeker

Yeah, because Franchise QB's ONLY ever come out of the first round, right?

The fact is, at some point in the playoffs, your QB will have to pick up the team and carry them to the next game. Alex Smith has had eight goddamned years in the league and has proven time and time again that he does not have that capability. Take Alex Smith in one hand and shit in the other. You've got the same stuff in both hands.

Hammock Parties · 03-25-2013, 08:19 PM

The interesting thing about the Alex Smith trade is we're literally going to ask someone to do something they've never done before. Alex Smith needs to more in KC than he did in SF. A lot more.

We didn't even do that with Cassel. If he had replicated his NE performance, that was probably going to be good enough for us.

Alex needs to do things he has never done before for us to be successful.

Great ****ing trade.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 03-25-2013, 08:19 PM

He will get paid millions of dollars. Find out he can buy a mansion in kansas for the price of an apartment in San Fran. The KC Star sports columnists will fluff him once a month. Including a saving feral cats from a praire fire type story. This wife will have an affair with McCLuster and he will leave for Buffalo in 2014.

patteeu · 03-25-2013, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Outside of Brad freaking Johnson, Tom Brady and Drew Brees yes.

Joe Montana? Brett Favre?

Tombstone RJ · 03-25-2013, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Beeker

Draft pick value blah blah blah

The ONLY value in a draft pick is what the player does for your team. All these arbitrary numbers you keep spitting out mean absolutely NOTHING. It's a second and a conditional third ... NOT A FIRST ... jfc

I don't think you have a clue.

Discuss Thrower · 03-25-2013, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Joe Montana? Brett Favre?

This decade. IE Years after the rules committee totally slanted the game in favor of passing offense.

Beeker · 03-25-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Outside of Brad freaking Johnson, Tom Brady and Drew Brees yes.

Joe Montana
Colin Kaepernick
Russell Wilson

There's 3 more for ya!

Unless of course you meant SUPER BOWL WINNING QB's... amirite?

Tombstone RJ · 03-25-2013, 08:32 PM

Tom by-god-Brady!!!!!!!

KC_Lee · 03-25-2013, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Beeker

Yeah, because Franchise QB's ONLY ever come out of the first round, right?

Great, wake me up when the Chiefs draft and develop a QB taken in any round in the draft.

Maybe I might care then, until then not so much.

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03-25-2013, 08:19 PM	#413
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4730478	The interesting thing about the Alex Smith trade is we're literally going to ask someone to do something they've never done before. Alex Smith needs to more in KC than he did in SF. A lot more. We didn't even do that with Cassel. If he had replicated his NE performance, that was probably going to be good enough for us. Alex needs to do things he has never done before for us to be successful. Great ****ing trade. __________________ Chiefs game films
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