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Old 12-04-2012, 06:57 PM   #1
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Hiring the highest paid and most sought after GM in the NFL his 2nd year in charge?

Yea it was a colossal **** up but it wasn't from lack of effort and 90% of the NFL world thought it was a great hire.
We all thought it was a good hire, but not putting him on a PIP after so many clearly questionable player acquisitions and not getting close enough to see how these poor acquisitions were a sign that it was a LOT more than him being the "magic" that is New England, is what draws so much ire from me. So as I said before, no need to a Jerry Jones, but if you're not going to be a Jerry Jones you need to be close enough to remind him that these head-scratching first-round picks, and an allegiance to a QB that only he sees as a franchise QB, has him on a short short rope. Gum wrappers??? I mean I get the concept of attention to detail, but Chunt letting Pioli do all these things that were cheap knock-offs of the Patriot way sure don't seem to work without an world-class QB and equally awesome head coach - who seems anything but affected by what the GM thinks. I could be wrong, but I don't think BB ever really cared too much about what Pioli thought!

Undue pressure on a GM? Nope, it's the nature of the business. When you talk the owner into paying a QB that kind of coin, you tell the QB he's going to have to perform.

I'm not saying it's easy, but we all have numbers we have to meet "or else."
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:27 PM   #2
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OMG, he's back, the short-bus has dropped off its load.
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:36 PM   #3
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OMG, he's back, the short-bus has dropped off its load.
Dude, read some of my posts and then compare them to yours.

I tried to do the same thing but I couldn't understand most of the shit you are saying. Make believe rants
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:06 PM   #4
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Dude, read some of my posts and then compare them to yours.

I tried to do the same thing but I couldn't understand most of the shit you are saying. Make believe rants
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:15 PM   #5
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you guys just dont get it do you. If chunt had a passion for football/chiefs this is how his life would of went.....
He would of grown up playing football NOT soccer.
He would of went to college in kc or not even went to college at all.
First chance he got he would of went straight to arrowhead drive to learn as much about the business as he could and get into it at quickly as possible.
He would NOT of went to SMU for 7 years.
He would NOT of gotten a financial job after college.
He would not be completely hands off his franchise.

Im probably missing some other facts, but please enlighten me as to how you could conclude Clark cares about our franchise/has a passion for this franchise to truly win k? thanks!
Um...what?

Because he played soccer he can't love football? Because he went to college means he can't love the Chiefs?

I played baseball, not football, AND went to college. Does that mean I can't love the Chiefs? It is possible to like multiple things in life. Guy didn't have to go out and get Pioli. Didn't have to staff Weis and Crennel in the same year. We all know enough of this fan base would still drink the cool-aid.

If he gets rid of Pioli this year and gets the best guy he can get then I don't know what else you want from him. Yeah he hasn't spent up to the cap but if Manning wanted to come here I am pretty damn certain he would have spent the money for him.

Guy just backed the wrong horse.
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Um...what?

Because he played soccer he can't love football? Because he went to college means he can't love the Chiefs?

I played baseball, not football, AND went to college. Does that mean I can't love the Chiefs? It is possible to like multiple things in life. Guy didn't have to go out and get Pioli. Didn't have to staff Weis and Crennel in the same year. We all know enough of this fan base would still drink the cool-aid.

If he gets rid of Pioli this year and gets the best guy he can get then I don't know what else you want from him. Yeah he hasn't spent up to the cap but if Manning wanted to come here I am pretty damn certain he would have spent the money for him.

Guy just backed the wrong horse.
1. Playing soccer his whole life shows that he never had a deep passion for football. which means he really does not have a deep down passion for the chiefs.
2. Youre missing the biggest part of the equation. Your daddy didnt own the Chiefs.
3. I somewhat agree with this but the fact is is that he had someone of a passion for this team and really truly wanted to win, he would not hire someone and sit back and not be involved. He would be at the very least a some what involved owner, which to the community's eyes, he is not.
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:25 PM   #8
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1. Playing soccer his whole life shows that he never had a deep passion for football. which means he really does not have a deep down passion for the chiefs.
2. Youre missing the biggest part of the equation. Your daddy didnt own the Chiefs.
3. I somewhat agree with this but the fact is is that he had someone of a passion for this team and really truly wanted to win, he would not hire someone and sit back and not be involved. He would be at the very least a some what involved owner, which to the community's eyes, he is not.
How many "involved" owners win it all. You hire the best GM candidate and let him do his job. I don't blame Clark for giving Pioli 4 years to creat something.

And again, the idea that you can't have passion for something because you also love something else is a joke. I have played baseball since I was 5 and never played a down of organized football. Doesn't mean I can't love it to death.
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:32 PM   #9
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How many "involved" owners win it all. You hire the best GM candidate and let him do his job. I don't blame Clark for giving Pioli 4 years to creat something.

And again, the idea that you can't have passion for something because you also love something else is a joke. I have played baseball since I was 5 and never played a down of organized football. Doesn't mean I can't love it to death.
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How many "involved" owners win it all. You hire the best GM candidate and let him do his job. I don't blame Clark for giving Pioli 4 years to creat something.

And again, the idea that you can't have passion for something because you also love something else is a joke. I have played baseball since I was 5 and never played a down of organized football. Doesn't mean I can't love it to death.
I'm not sure it's as much a question of a physical presence as it is the lack of any real presence and consecutive decisions that show no indication of caring. So his being here to console the team was a nice touch and very appropriate - that's not my beef. I'm not looking for a Jerry Jones in terms of visibility, but it'd be nice to know that Pioli's issues not being addressed. So I get the quiet types, but frequently you don't have to the see the owner to see he's making changes. And who ever said that a word from the owner is a bad thing?
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I think it's incredibly unprofessional for him to say this publicly, whether it's true or not.
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I think it's incredibly unprofessional for him to say this publicly, whether it's true or not.
I agree. This really seems strange. I don't know anything about Clark Hunt. Frankly, I'm neutral on the guy. This kind of a comment isn't going to sway me.
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clark also didnt staff weis and crennel, Pioli did. clark signed the checks
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