USA Today/ESPN Mens Hoops Top 25

**Saulbadguy** · 10-28-2004, 04:04 PM

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...l/usatpoll.htm

1.
Kansas (8)

24-9

741

9
2.
Wake Forest (12)

21-10

724

15
3.
North Carolina (6)

19-11

697

22
4.
Georgia Tech (1)

28-10

604

3
5.
Illinois (1)

26-7

598

11
6.
Syracuse

23-8

557

19
7.
Connecticut

33-6

541

1
8.
Oklahoma State (1)

31-4

511

4
9.
Kentucky

27-5

480

8
10.
Michigan State

18-12

476

NR
11.
Arizona

20-10

475

NR
12.
Duke

31-6

403

2
13.
Louisville (1)

20-10

374

NR
14.
Mississippi State

26-4

365

13
15.
Texas

25-8

334

10
16.
Maryland

20-12

316

24
17.
Pittsburgh

31-5

247

7
18.
Alabama

20-13

224

17
19.
N.C. State

21-10

218

20
20.
Wisconsin

25-7

216

16
21.
Notre Dame

19-13

214

NR
22.
Florida

20-11

160

NR
23.
Memphis

22-8

131

NR
24.
Washington

19-12

108

NR
25.
Stanford

30-2

64

6

Others receiving votes (with 2003-04 records): Gonzaga (28-3) 58; Cincinnati (25-7) 44; Michigan (23-11) 38; Providence (20-9) 37; Oklahoma (20-11) 34; Charlotte (21-9) 31; UAB (22-10) 11; UNLV (18-13) 9; Utah (24-9) 6; Pacific (25-8) 5; Southern Illinois (25-5) 4; DePaul (22-10) 3; Purdue (17-14) 3; Texas Tech (23-11) 3; Pepperdine (15-16) 2; Saint Joseph's (30-2) 2; Texas-El Paso (23-8) 2; Toledo (20-11) 2; Florida State (19-14) 1; Princeton (20-8) 1; Vanderbilt (23-10) 1.

The first regular-season poll will be released Monday, Nov. 22.

NABC policy bars schools on major NCAA or conference probation from receiving votes.

The USA TODAY/ESPN Board of Coaches is made up of 31 Division I head coaches. All are members of the National Association of Basketball Coaches. The 2004-05 board: Dana Altman, Creighton; Tevester Anderson, Jackson State; Eddie Biedenbach, North Carolina-Asheville; Jim Boeheim, Syracuse; Charles Coles, Miami (Ohio); Barry Collier, Nebraska; Dick Davey; Santa Clara; Fran Dunphy, Pennsylvania; Mick Durham, Montana State; Rob Evans, Arizona State; Steve Fisher, San Diego State; Pat Flannery, Bucknell; Tom Green, Fairleigh Dickinson; David Henderson, Delaware; Bob Huggins, Cincinnati; Johnny Jones, North Texas; Gene Keady, Purdue; Eddie McCarter, Texas-Arlington; Bob McKillop, Davidson; Phil Martelli, Saint Joseph's; Joe Mihalich, Niagara; Ron "Fang" Mitchell, Coppin State; Dave Odom, South Carolina; John Phillips, Tulsa; Rick Samuels, Eastern Illinois; Kirk Speraw, Central Florida; Bob Thomason, Pacific; Perry Watson, Detroit Mercy; Gary Williams, Maryland; Dennis Wolff, Boston University; Rich Zvosec, Missouri-Kansas City.

10-28-2004, 04:11 PM

Nope. Don't see K-State anywhere.

ROYC75 · 10-28-2004, 04:14 PM

Nope, neither do I see a Missouri either !

chiefqueen · 10-28-2004, 04:24 PM

NABC policy bars schools on major NCAA or conference probation from receiving votes.

I think that's only if they are ineligible for postseason play & to my knowledge MU does not fit in that catgory...........yet.

Brando · 10-28-2004, 04:31 PM

Man..where's the love for my Orange? Stuck at six.

**DaKCMan AP** · 10-28-2004, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

1. Kansas (8)

24-9

741

9

hell yeah!

Quote:

22.
Florida

20-11

160

NR

lower than I would rank them (high teens) but good to have low expectations with this team. They will be much better than last season and have the potential to make some noise.

KU's season is national champ or bust.

ROYC75 · 10-28-2004, 04:35 PM

Hey, it's not my fault MU sucks and got itself in trouble !

ROYC75 · 10-28-2004, 04:49 PM

Kinda agree , IMHO, If KU doesn't win it with this years squad it will be considered a bust.

ROYC75 · 10-28-2004, 04:53 PM

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NABC policy bars schools on major NCAA or conference probation from receiving votes.
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Hey, it's not my fault MU sucks and got itself in trouble !

That was my response, if it was to harsh, I understand.

Jenny Gump · 10-28-2004, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENDelt260

It's not so much harsh as it is just odd.

True.

Brando · 10-28-2004, 05:15 PM

I love how Michigan State is once again severly over rated.

HolmeZz · 10-28-2004, 05:48 PM

Yeah, it seems like every year Michigan State gets built up as a top team, and every year they disappoint.

Brando · 10-28-2004, 05:55 PM

I don't know what I would like to see more...Tom Izzo getting his head shaved, or Dick Vitale getting stabbed in the eye while Willie Roaf digs a heel into his nuts.

Pants · 10-28-2004, 05:55 PM

I hate Syracuse now, and that bundle of sticks 'Mello. It was OUR year dammit.

**Saulbadguy** · 10-28-2004, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENDelt260

Most first place votes? Say hello to #2.

I was confused by that as well...I don't understand it at all.

10-28-2004, 04:04 PM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $2516966	USA Today/ESPN Mens Hoops Top 25 http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...l/usatpoll.htm 1. Kansas (8) 24-9 741 9 2. Wake Forest (12) 21-10 724 15 3. North Carolina (6) 19-11 697 22 4. Georgia Tech (1) 28-10 604 3 5. Illinois (1) 26-7 598 11 6. Syracuse 23-8 557 19 7. Connecticut 33-6 541 1 8. Oklahoma State (1) 31-4 511 4 9. Kentucky 27-5 480 8 10. Michigan State 18-12 476 NR 11. Arizona 20-10 475 NR 12. Duke 31-6 403 2 13. Louisville (1) 20-10 374 NR 14. Mississippi State 26-4 365 13 15. Texas 25-8 334 10 16. Maryland 20-12 316 24 17. Pittsburgh 31-5 247 7 18. Alabama 20-13 224 17 19. N.C. State 21-10 218 20 20. Wisconsin 25-7 216 16 21. Notre Dame 19-13 214 NR 22. Florida 20-11 160 NR 23. Memphis 22-8 131 NR 24. Washington 19-12 108 NR 25. Stanford 30-2 64 6 Others receiving votes (with 2003-04 records): Gonzaga (28-3) 58; Cincinnati (25-7) 44; Michigan (23-11) 38; Providence (20-9) 37; Oklahoma (20-11) 34; Charlotte (21-9) 31; UAB (22-10) 11; UNLV (18-13) 9; Utah (24-9) 6; Pacific (25-8) 5; Southern Illinois (25-5) 4; DePaul (22-10) 3; Purdue (17-14) 3; Texas Tech (23-11) 3; Pepperdine (15-16) 2; Saint Joseph's (30-2) 2; Texas-El Paso (23-8) 2; Toledo (20-11) 2; Florida State (19-14) 1; Princeton (20-8) 1; Vanderbilt (23-10) 1. The first regular-season poll will be released Monday, Nov. 22. NABC policy bars schools on major NCAA or conference probation from receiving votes. The USA TODAY/ESPN Board of Coaches is made up of 31 Division I head coaches. All are members of the National Association of Basketball Coaches. The 2004-05 board: Dana Altman, Creighton; Tevester Anderson, Jackson State; Eddie Biedenbach, North Carolina-Asheville; Jim Boeheim, Syracuse; Charles Coles, Miami (Ohio); Barry Collier, Nebraska; Dick Davey; Santa Clara; Fran Dunphy, Pennsylvania; Mick Durham, Montana State; Rob Evans, Arizona State; Steve Fisher, San Diego State; Pat Flannery, Bucknell; Tom Green, Fairleigh Dickinson; David Henderson, Delaware; Bob Huggins, Cincinnati; Johnny Jones, North Texas; Gene Keady, Purdue; Eddie McCarter, Texas-Arlington; Bob McKillop, Davidson; Phil Martelli, Saint Joseph's; Joe Mihalich, Niagara; Ron "Fang" Mitchell, Coppin State; Dave Odom, South Carolina; John Phillips, Tulsa; Rick Samuels, Eastern Illinois; Kirk Speraw, Central Florida; Bob Thomason, Pacific; Perry Watson, Detroit Mercy; Gary Williams, Maryland; Dennis Wolff, Boston University; Rich Zvosec, Missouri-Kansas City.
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10-28-2004, 04:14 PM	#3
ROYC75 Time For Your Wake Up Call !!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Barn Yard Casino cash: $5569400	Nope, neither do I see a Missouri either ! __________________ Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon
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10-28-2004, 04:24 PM	#4
chiefqueen On my throne Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $8162060	NABC policy bars schools on major NCAA or conference probation from receiving votes. I think that's only if they are ineligible for postseason play & to my knowledge MU does not fit in that catgory...........yet.
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10-28-2004, 04:31 PM	#5
Brando Swiss Family GRobinson Join Date: Sep 2004 Casino cash: $8064036	Man..where's the love for my Orange? Stuck at six.
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10-28-2004, 04:35 PM	#7
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10-28-2004, 04:11 PM	#2
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	Nope. Don't see K-State anywhere.
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10-28-2004, 04:49 PM	#8
ROYC75 Time For Your Wake Up Call !!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Barn Yard Casino cash: $5569400	Kinda agree , IMHO, If KU doesn't win it with this years squad it will be considered a bust. __________________ Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon
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10-28-2004, 05:15 PM	#11
Brando Swiss Family GRobinson Join Date: Sep 2004 Casino cash: $8064036	I love how Michigan State is once again severly over rated.
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10-28-2004, 05:48 PM	#12
HolmeZz i guess its bittersweet poetry Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NeW HaVeN, CT Casino cash: $10004900	Yeah, it seems like every year Michigan State gets built up as a top team, and every year they disappoint.
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10-28-2004, 05:55 PM	#13
Brando Swiss Family GRobinson Join Date: Sep 2004 Casino cash: $8064036	I don't know what I would like to see more...Tom Izzo getting his head shaved, or Dick Vitale getting stabbed in the eye while Willie Roaf digs a heel into his nuts.
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10-28-2004, 05:55 PM	#14
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