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Old 01-11-2012, 07:00 PM  
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Cassel post Haley\Muir...if he could improve on one thing..
ok so it sounds like Cassel is going to be the man next season. Yes, we all know CP says he sucks at life and isn't the answer. having said that he is going to be our QB it seems whether we like it or not.

I am not sold that our offense had to be so conservative because of Cassel. I think Haley had a lot to do with that. In hindsight I think we are going to see a lot of Haley's fail in comparison to a new coaching staff. Yes, Haley did some good things, I don't want to take that away from him. But I think the fact that he couldn't keep an OC on staff puts his thumbprint on this ridiculous offensive scheme we have seen for 3 years. Plus our O-line has been shit for 3 years as well. Pioli sounds like he finally realizes that fact so I expect to see more talent on that side of the ball next season.

That being said, if you could pick one area for Cassel to improve, (Lord knows there are plenty) what would it be?

Personally I think if he improved on his progressions he would eliminate a lot of the suck.
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Old 01-11-2012, 08:12 PM   #61
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Picking one thing to fix with Cassel is like believing an oil change can get a Pinto running like brand new. He doesn't move his protections. He doesn't have a sufficient arm to get the ball downfield nor does he trust himself to make those throws. He can't read his progressions. He holds on to the ball too long.

Stop making excuses with the O-line. The pressure is coming from in front of him usually with Richardson. Funny how it wasn't an issue when Orton and Palko. Good QBs avoid the pressure and get rid of the ball or find an open receiver.
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Old 01-11-2012, 08:12 PM   #62
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If somebody good falls to us, we could move down to 20 or so and I bet Riley Reiff is still on the board.

At that point, he would be a pretty darn good pick.

Especially if we could add a future #1 by moving down.
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Old 01-11-2012, 08:14 PM   #63
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Picking one thing to fix with Cassel is like believing an oil change can get a Pinto running like brand new. He doesn't move his protections. He doesn't have a sufficient arm to get the ball downfield nor does he trust himself to make those throws. He can't read his progressions. He holds on to the ball too long.

Stop making excuses with the O-line. The pressure is coming from in front of him usually with Richardson. Funny how it wasn't an issue when Orton and Palko. Good QBs avoid the pressure and get rid of the ball or find an open receiver.
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Old 01-11-2012, 08:14 PM   #64
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He could be serviceable if his sphincter didn't turn into Old Faithful at the first hint of pressure. I don't think he's fixable.
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If someone offers us a number 1 to move down, I'd do it for sure.

Move down, take Konz. Use that first next year as ammo to move up and take Barkley.
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Old 01-11-2012, 08:16 PM   #66
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All of Cassels problems basically boil down to one thing. He can't stay calm in the pocket when pressure comes.

When he stays poised in the pocket he can be servicable.
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Old 01-11-2012, 08:16 PM   #67
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IMO Orton isn't the stinky turd some say he is. He throws the ball well, seems pretty smart football wise, and wants to win.

He's kinda got the shaft everywhere he has been. Granted in Denver he had a bad record, but I don't put that all on him.
It's hard to forget that ripping Orton put on us last year. Maybe I have a short memory, but I can't recall Cassel ever having a game like that for us. If Orton is no good, why did the Bears & Boys want him when he was cut by the Donks? Orton may be pretty good at play action when Charles comes back healthy.
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Old 01-11-2012, 08:20 PM   #68
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All of Cassels problems basically boil down to one thing. He can't stay calm in the pocket when pressure comes.

When he stays poised in the pocket he can be servicable.
Cassel is a great QB when everything around him unfolds perfectly and his #1 receiver is open.

If any of that doesn't happen, it's a roll of the loaded dice.
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Old 01-11-2012, 08:24 PM   #69
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If Orton isn't re-signed, StanziMania will be running wild by this time next year.

I think Reiff would upgrade this line more so than Konz.

Albert
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I'm not s big fan of Reiff because of where we are picking, if we made the playoffs and ended up picking early to mid 20s, I'd be vocal about Reiff.

He will be one of the better right tackles in the NFL and gives you a guy that can be a serviceable left tackle if you are in a pinch...you wouldn't need to "hide him" by any means.

Either scenario is acceptable, I just have my bias.
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If Orton isn't re-signed, StanziMania will be running wild by this time next year.

I think Reiff would upgrade this line more so than Konz.

Albert
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I'm not s big fan of Reiff because of where we are picking, if we made the playoffs and ended up picking early to mid 20s, I'd be vocal about Reiff.

He will be one of the better right tackles in the NFL and gives you a guy that can be a serviceable left tackle if you are in a pinch...you wouldn't need to "hide him" by any means.

Either scenario is acceptable, I just have my bias.
Thta would be fine. I'd go one farther and replace Lilja with one of the guys I said earlier. Grubbs or Nicks.

Would JIMP.
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Thta would be fine. I'd go one farther and replace Lilja with one of the guys I said earlier. Grubbs or Nicks.

Would JIMP.
I didn't think Lilja was all that good this year. I thought he got mowed over a lot but that could have something to do with our C being blown over by a whiff of bad breath.
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