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Old 11-11-2007, 04:04 PM   Topic Starter
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Why act so surprised about the 2007 Chief's?

Didn't you see it coming?
You had plenty of clues.


Clue #1 DV retires in 2006 CP stays.
Clue #2 CP hires Herm.
Clue #3 Our O rankings plummet from Top 3 to 16 in 2006.
Clue #4 We luck into the playoffs and embarrass ourselves with the all time worst playoff performance by a NFL team. An abortion.
Clue #5 CP did nothing to prepare for the ultimate retirements of Roaf and Shields. He let our OL waste away.
Clue #6 we do nothing in the 2007 Draft to improve our OL.
Clue #7 Watching our O is like watching paint dry.
Clue #8 Huard is our starting QB
Clue #9 Solari is our OC.
Clue #10 Colquitt is our best offensive weapon.
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Old 11-11-2007, 04:06 PM   #2
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Old 11-11-2007, 04:17 PM   #3
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Old 11-11-2007, 04:24 PM   #4
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In two short years the Chiefs have gone from the best offense in football to the worst. The apologists will use the retirement of key players and injuries as an excuse, but the ultimate blame falls on Carl Peterson for one of the most dramatic declines of an offense in recent memory in the NFL
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Old 11-11-2007, 04:29 PM   #5
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In two short years the Chiefs have gone from the best offense in football to the worst. The apologists will use the retirement of key players and injuries as an excuse, but the ultimate blame falls on Carl Peterson for one of the most dramatic declines of an offense in recent memory in the NFL
Who cares if you have the best offense if you have the worst defense for half an EFFING DECADE?
The playoffs are littered with high flying regular season offenses that sputter and die. The 99 Rams were the exception, and it took the strength of their defense in the NFCC and SB to become the exception.
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Old 11-11-2007, 05:15 PM   #6
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I knew they were going to suck this year and then they go and win a few games to make me think they have a chance to win the AFC west.
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Old 11-11-2007, 05:37 PM   #7
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In two short years the Chiefs have gone from the best offense in football to the worst. The apologists will use the retirement of key players and injuries as an excuse, but the ultimate blame falls on Carl Peterson for one of the most dramatic declines of an offense in recent memory in the NFL
Herm is just to much to blame as well. It made absolutley no sense to retain Solari as OC if we were going to change the offense as Mike represented a link to the DV years. We made no attempt to try and replace lost/retired players with those that posess the same type of talent. We made no attempt to keep the system. This IS the direction that Herm wanted to go. He'll throw Solari under the bus at season's end and we'll lose a heck of an OL coach in the process - Bank on it. Herm makes up his vision for this team as he goes along. He is not the guy for the rebuild job, but we're stuck with the moron.
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:12 PM   #8
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Herm is just to much to blame as well. It made absolutley no sense to retain Solari as OC if we were going to change the offense as Mike represented a link to the DV years. We made no attempt to try and replace lost/retired players with those that posess the same type of talent. We made no attempt to keep the system. This IS the direction that Herm wanted to go. He'll throw Solari under the bus at season's end and we'll lose a heck of an OL coach in the process - Bank on it. Herm makes up his vision for this team as he goes along. He is not the guy for the rebuild job, but we're stuck with the moron.
He should throw Solari under the bus. Solari's ass should be gone. I'm sure Herm is the one telling him to run LJ's up the center's ass every play.
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:47 PM   #9
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He should throw Solari under the bus. Solari's ass should be gone. I'm sure Herm is the one telling him to run LJ's up the center's ass every play.
Solari is the product of Herm's vision. After the 2nd preseason game last season, Herm called him out and he hasn't been the same since. Remember? If Herm didn't have a track record of this, I'd be more inclined to agree. But he does so he gets no benefit of the doubt. If you have said doubt, just ask yourself how many OC's he's had in his 6 years as HC in this league.
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:56 PM   #10
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Solari is the product of Herm's vision. After the 2nd preseason game last season, Herm called him out and he hasn't been the same since. Remember? If Herm didn't have a track record of this, I'd be more inclined to agree. But he does so he gets no benefit of the doubt. If you have said doubt, just ask yourself how many OC's he's had in his 6 years as HC in this league.
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:02 PM   #11
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He should throw Solari under the bus. Solari's ass should be gone. I'm sure Herm is the one telling him to run LJ's up the center's ass every play.
Solari was horrible today. We came out in the first half and threw on 4 straight plays, 2 of which turned into TDs for Denver. Exactly what about the first half and the 30 potential INTs that were dropped made Solari think "What we should really do is have Huard come out throwing"? It boggles the mind.
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:57 PM   #12
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Exactly what about the first half and the 30 potential INTs that were dropped made Solari think "What we should really do is have Huard come out throwing"? It boggles the mind.
Perhaps having the league's worst run blocking entered into the equation.
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:08 PM   #13
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In two short years the Chiefs have gone from the best offense in football to the worst. The apologists will use the retirement of key players and injuries as an excuse, but the ultimate blame falls on Carl Peterson for one of the most dramatic declines of an offense in recent memory in the NFL
How is it being an apologist when it's a fact?

You ****ing idiots act like we can just go out and replace players of Shields and Roaf's caliber overnight.

Any person with a ****ing functional brain knows why this offense declined.

You also act like Vermeil didn't have an old NFL squad.

Do you actually watch football, or did you stop when the Hurricanes became a brief drizzle.
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:23 PM   #14
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How is it being an apologist when it's a fact?

You ****ing idiots act like we can just go out and replace players of Shields and Roaf's caliber overnight.

Any person with a ****ing functional brain knows why this offense declined.

You also act like Vermeil didn't have an old NFL squad.

Do you actually watch football, or did you stop when the Hurricanes became a brief drizzle.

We know you can't get players like Shields and Roaf overnight! That's the point CP blew it 3-4 years ago when these guys were playing he should have prepared better and continue to find strong talent to back up and ultimately replace these OL players. He didn't!

Ultimately this team is headed in the wrong direction and needs NEW MANAGEMENT from Top to bottom. CP has been here for 19 years. Thanks for everything he's been here long enough.
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:32 PM   #15
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We know you can't get players like Shields and Roaf overnight! That's the point CP blew it 3-4 years ago when these guys were playing he should have prepared better and continue to find strong talent to back up and ultimately replace these OL players. He didn't!

Ultimately this team is headed in the wrong direction and needs NEW MANAGEMENT from Top to bottom. CP has been here for 19 years. Thanks for everything he's been here long enough.

If you draft properly, you don't really need 3-4 years notice. But I agree with your take.
The Colts needed a replacement for Tarik Glenn after he retired and picked up a brand spanking LT via the draft this year (Tony Ugoh) and he's starting. Pretty tall order protecting Manning's blind side. They picked him up in round 2 with the 42 pick in the draft!

Course that's why nobdy will ever confuse Carl Peterson with Bill Polian...
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