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Old 06-02-2020, 01:44 PM   #1
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I’ve sent in cards & I’m always disappointed in the grade.
When I renewed my psa account, I had a remarkable difference in grading on the free voucher when I went platinum over gold.
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Old 06-04-2020, 03:38 AM   #2
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When I renewed my psa account, I had a remarkable difference in grading on the free voucher when I went platinum over gold.

I’ve watched stuff like this but does it really matter?

https://youtu.be/c4Qzuo4PjYs

Can you go over the cost of both? I’ve thought about the platinum.
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Old 06-04-2020, 09:56 AM   #3
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I’ve watched stuff like this but does it really matter?

https://youtu.be/c4Qzuo4PjYs

Can you go over the cost of both? I’ve thought about the platinum.
platinum is quite a bit higher, but it gives you 15 vouchers vs the 6 you otherwise would get. I had heard from a friend that platinum is the way to go if you are wanting better grades up front. He wasn't wrong.

From that submission, here are 4 cards I submitted for example.

I sent in an old Chiefs card, a 64 topps Smokey Stover. Needed it for a registry set and didn't want to pay $200 for a common. So I had one I thought would get psa7, but it came back 8.

I submitted (2) 2000 Topps Chrome john Abraham rookies. Again, another registry set need. I think I gave maybe 5 bucks per card. I subbed them both, thinking both would be 9. Got a 9 and a 10. sold the 9 for way too little apparently. It went within 45 minutes of listing on ebay.

I needed to add one other card to finish the submission so I added an 89 score Barry Sanders. it came back 10. I had subbed other 89 scores in the past and never got a 10. this time I did, go figure.

In any bulk submission or 6 card voucher, I never had the ceiling I did with the platinum submission. Maybe I just wised up and finally submitted cards that were solid? Who knows. I've got a bunch of mid-80s rookies that I would like to grade and would justify the signup costs. Thinking about doing it again to see if lightning strikes again.
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Old 06-04-2020, 01:35 PM   #4
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platinum is quite a bit higher, but it gives you 15 vouchers vs the 6 you otherwise would get. I had heard from a friend that platinum is the way to go if you are wanting better grades up front. He wasn't wrong.

From that submission, here are 4 cards I submitted for example.

I sent in an old Chiefs card, a 64 topps Smokey Stover. Needed it for a registry set and didn't want to pay $200 for a common. So I had one I thought would get psa7, but it came back 8.

I submitted (2) 2000 Topps Chrome john Abraham rookies. Again, another registry set need. I think I gave maybe 5 bucks per card. I subbed them both, thinking both would be 9. Got a 9 and a 10. sold the 9 for way too little apparently. It went within 45 minutes of listing on ebay.

I needed to add one other card to finish the submission so I added an 89 score Barry Sanders. it came back 10. I had subbed other 89 scores in the past and never got a 10. this time I did, go figure.

In any bulk submission or 6 card voucher, I never had the ceiling I did with the platinum submission. Maybe I just wised up and finally submitted cards that were solid? Who knows. I've got a bunch of mid-80s rookies that I would like to grade and would justify the signup costs. Thinking about doing it again to see if lightning strikes again.

Why not try out SGC? I've seen a lot of people moving over to SGC over PSA lately. Their slabs sure do look and feel better than PSA. Their grading from what I have run across has always been spot on.
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Old 06-04-2020, 02:39 PM   #5
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Why not try out SGC? I've seen a lot of people moving over to SGC over PSA lately. Their slabs sure do look and feel better than PSA. Their grading from what I have run across has always been spot on.
I really like sgc for older cards. I don't know why, but I've always like them in that regard. I really haven't looked at them seriously to submit to. I could be waaay off here, but it just seems like high grade psa brings more than high grade sgc of the same card.

For stuff in my collection, I don't really care who the grader is. Mainly its about preserving the card to be honest. But when it comes to flipping some, I've had better results with psa than other graders.
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I really like sgc for older cards. I don't know why, but I've always like them in that regard. I really haven't looked at them seriously to submit to. I could be waaay off here, but it just seems like high grade psa brings more than high grade sgc of the same card.

For stuff in my collection, I don't really care who the grader is. Mainly its about preserving the card to be honest. But when it comes to flipping some, I've had better results with psa than other graders.
Yep, PSA does sell better. Beckett even sell better.

Every time I look at a card SGC graded I can find a way to agree with the grade it was given. PSA and Beckett I can't say the same. At least Beckett has sub grades, which I do like.

My personal collection I really could care less about graded cards. I don't trust them very much. Send a card in to PSA it will come back one grade crack it open and send it in to Beckett and it will come back another grade, send it in to SGC and I'm sure the same will happen. It all just feel like some racket.

Have you ever thought about buying unsealed slabs and making your own labels if you are wanting to just preserve?
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Old 06-04-2020, 03:04 PM   #7
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Have you ever thought about buying unsealed slabs and making your own labels if you are wanting to just preserve?
Nah, I'm pretty partial to just using Card Saver I for everything. They are inexpensive, cards do not slip out at all, and they fit perfectly into bcw brand boxes.

I do have a couple custom PSA slabs, but I didn't submit them. One is a backless 1993 finest refractor, which is one my favorite cards. It almost looks embossed (obviously its not) on the reverse and has the refractor shine as well. I have no idea what the manufacturing process is for refractors, but if this is legit, it looks like the front is printed, then adhered to the back. If that's the case, then this looks like a cut copy of the front only, prior to having a back glued to it. Its not expensive, its just unique and I thought it was cool. Most of my personal collection is stuff I simply like, vs what is highly desirable, etc.
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platinum is quite a bit higher, but it gives you 15 vouchers vs the 6 you otherwise would get. I had heard from a friend that platinum is the way to go if you are wanting better grades up front. He wasn't wrong.

From that submission, here are 4 cards I submitted for example.

I sent in an old Chiefs card, a 64 topps Smokey Stover. Needed it for a registry set and didn't want to pay $200 for a common. So I had one I thought would get psa7, but it came back 8.

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I needed to add one other card to finish the submission so I added an 89 score Barry Sanders. it came back 10. I had subbed other 89 scores in the past and never got a 10. this time I did, go figure.

In any bulk submission or 6 card voucher, I never had the ceiling I did with the platinum submission. Maybe I just wised up and finally submitted cards that were solid? Who knows. I've got a bunch of mid-80s rookies that I would like to grade and would justify the signup costs. Thinking about doing it again to see if lightning strikes again.

You can even submit wax packs to have graded? What are they grading? How the pack is wrapped? Weird

All this talk has got me back into that collector feeling again. It feels good too. I loved this hobby when I was younger.
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You can even submit wax packs to have graded? What are they grading? How the pack is wrapped? Weird

All this talk has got me back into that collector feeling again. It feels good too. I loved this hobby when I was younger.
Yep, graded packs and even tickets are a big deal.
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Yep, graded packs and even tickets are a big deal.

How do you grade a pack????
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Old 06-06-2020, 06:17 AM   #11
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How do you grade a pack????
I haven’t submitted one not have I really been interested in them. Grading is same as a card. They put a numerical grade on it for condition, which also includes (what I assume is) a guarantee of integrity against having been searched and resealed.

Some graded packs go for serious cheddar.
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