Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 159

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! · 12-03-2018, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Rap said he will play when?

Didn’t say

#Chiefs S Eric Berry, who finally returned to practice this week after a months-long battle with a heel injury, is not expected to play today, source said. He hasn’t been ruled out for Sunday yet and had no setbacks in his return.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) December 2, 2018

KCFalcon59 · 12-03-2018, 03:26 PM

The biggest thing that Berry will improve is that he can ****ing tackle. Unlike Murray who can't make a tackle to save his life.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! · 12-03-2018, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KCFalcon59

The biggest thing that Berry will improve is that he can ****ing tackle. Unlike Murray who can't make a tackle to save his life.

Parker is playing like shit as well. He doesn’t try to tackle. Parker was really good when Berry was back there. Hopefully getting Berry back will help Parker

NJChiefsFan · 12-03-2018, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Did they actually have a chance to win?

Yeah they did. They were a drop, stop, or deflection away from having the ball back with time to go down and get the game winning TD. The offense did it's job and Mahomes did his thing. Expected yes, but not a guarantee.

That being said, I agree Berry shouldn't have been put in this game. It's a calculated risk, but a good one IMO.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-03-2018, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

You guys are bananas if you think that game yesterday wasn't in jeopardy. Mahomes converted 2 or 3 huge first downs on that last scoring drive.

You think our defense was going to stop them if he misses? It would probably be a repeat of last year. Our only hope would be if they score too soon.

They don't give a flying shit ****. They live in a fantasy world where defense is now an outlier, and every QB in the NFL is on their way to putting up 40 points a game.

It's complete bullshit.

TEX · 12-03-2018, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

They don't give a flying shit ****. They live in a fantasy world where defense is now an outlier, and every QB in the NFL is on their way to putting up 40 points a game.

It's complete bullshit.

Yep. Playoff time is coming, this abortion of a _efense is gonna KILL the Chiefs. I think it kills us at least once before they start. Maybe THAT will serve to slap some back to reality.

njchiefs · 12-04-2018, 06:55 PM

Soooooo?

suzzer99 · 12-04-2018, 07:04 PM

Tuesday is film day. Gonna be very very curious about Berry and Watkins tomorrow. Could we have a little good luck to go with our bad - and somehow both magically be about 100%? One time?

I have officially not used my One Time this year.

-King- · 12-04-2018, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Tuesday is film day. Gonna be very very curious about Berry and Watkins tomorrow. Could we have a little good luck to go with our bad - and somehow both magically be about 100%? One time?

I have officially not used my One Time this year.

Think they'll both be sat out this Ravens game and both will play the chargers on Thursday night. Doubt they want to bring them back for them to play 2 games in 5 days
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MIAdragon · 12-04-2018, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Didn’t say

#Chiefs S Eric Berry, who finally returned to practice this week after a months-long battle with a heel injury, is not expected to play today, source said. He hasn’t been ruled out for Sunday yet and had no setbacks in his return.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) December 2, 2018

So he’s still day to day

Marcellus · 12-04-2018, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon

So he’s still day to day

That tweet is from before the last game.

GloryDayz · 12-04-2018, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by njchiefs

Soooooo?

In58men · 12-04-2018, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Stopped after 36 minutes, got quite irritating.

GloryDayz · 12-04-2018, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men

Stopped after 36 minutes, got quite irritating.

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Aspengc8 · 12-05-2018, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KCFalcon59

The biggest thing that Berry will improve is that he can ****ing tackle. Unlike Murray who can't make a tackle to save his life.

This. There were 3 instances sunday where murray could have saved a first down.

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1786899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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