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Old 09-18-2014, 09:36 PM  
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Need help moving OS (Win 7) to SSD
First I installed Win 7 clean on the SSD but that didn't work like I thought it would so I reformatted the SSD. Is there an easy free way to do it?

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Old 09-19-2014, 07:19 AM   #2
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Moving an operating system from 1 drive to another?

You would need to use a backup/imaging software like Ghost or Acronis, and I don't even know if that would work if the drives weren't the same size.
I've never really tried this because doing a fresh install just makes me feel better.
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Old 09-19-2014, 07:27 AM   #3
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It didn't work like you thought it would? Huh?
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Old 09-19-2014, 10:15 AM   #4
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Man, there's a lot that can go wrong doing that. Even if you get the data copied over, you still have to worry about aligning the sectors and such. If you install Windows 7 directly onto an SSD (instead of cloning) the installation program makes sure that everything is aligned properly and that the outmoded sector-based system works fine on the SSD. If you clone onto an SSD from a HDD, however, there is a very high probability that the alignment will be off. What this means, is that you will radically increase your SSD read/writes and decrease performance because of the poor alignment. You’ll be wearing out and slowing down the drive, all over something as tiny as data misalignment.

I'd highly recommend just backing up documents and data and installing Windows from scratch on the SSD. HDDs and SSDs are just too different to easily clone and the potential for massive ****s is very high. Including actually damaging your new SSD.
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Old 09-19-2014, 10:36 AM   #5
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This can be done. I replaced a hard drive on a mini laptop with an SSD. To make things more difficult the laptop did not have an optical drive.

I found a copy of Windows and loaded it onto a thumb drive and then moved it to the laptop. It was a "pure" version of Windows which did not have any manufacturer bloat.
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:28 AM   #6
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Just reload. Get a cheap SATA dock, plug your old drive into it, and pull your data over.
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:34 AM   #7
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So did the fresh install work correctly on SSD or did it just not work after you tried to clone over the fresh install?

It really about what cloning program you use. Many of them don't handle the boot sectors correctly.
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:42 AM   #8
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Empty or offload your HDD and clone that bitch, it will transfer right over like nothing happened. Also make sure your BIOS is set to boot from the correct drive.

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Old 09-19-2014, 12:04 PM   #9
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Empty or offload your HDD and clone that bitch, it will transfer right over like nothing happened. Also make sure your BIOS is set to boot from the correct drive.

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No, it actually won't. It may appear to, but it could cause the SSD to overwork itself because of the difference in base sectors. Windows OS is handled differently on HDD vs. SSD. When you install Windows on an SSD, it knows that it's an SSD and makes a bunch of system changes to reflect that. It disables superfetch, prefecth, readyboot, scheduled defrags, etc. Because all those things are unnecessary with an SSD. Cloning from HDD to SSD bypasses all that. Not to mention that SSDs require different sector alignment so it knows where to place data on the disk. So your system is going to think and act like Windows is installed on a HDD still.

There are backup apps that will make those changes for you though. Google something like "Clone Windows 7 to ssd", and you should find lots of info.
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Old 09-19-2014, 12:13 PM   #10
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Best solution is to use a package to capture your image, then reapply that image to the SSD when you are done. Do you have a copy of ghost?
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Old 09-19-2014, 01:07 PM   #11
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No, it actually won't. It may appear to, but it could cause the SSD to overwork itself because of the difference in base sectors. Windows OS is handled differently on HDD vs. SSD. When you install Windows on an SSD, it knows that it's an SSD and makes a bunch of system changes to reflect that. It disables superfetch, prefecth, readyboot, scheduled defrags, etc. Because all those things are unnecessary with an SSD. Cloning from HDD to SSD bypasses all that. Not to mention that SSDs require different sector alignment so it knows where to place data on the disk. So your system is going to think and act like Windows is installed on a HDD still.

There are backup apps that will make those changes for you though. Google something like "Clone Windows 7 to ssd", and you should find lots of info.
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I just did the shit a month ago, and then optimized for SSD myself in a few minutes, not to mention the cloning software did most of it for me. All I had to do was point the windows libraries etc to the HDD. Cant remember which software I used but can recommend when I get home. Don't try and complicate it~

My statement still stands. Clone the ****ing drive with software and be done with it.
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Old 09-19-2014, 01:20 PM   #12
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I just did the shit a month ago, and then optimized for SSD myself in a few minutes, not to mention the cloning software did most of it for me. All I had to do was point the windows libraries etc to the HDD. Cant remember which software I used but can recommend when I get home. Don't try and complicate it~

My statement still stands. Clone the ****ing drive with software and be done with it.
Just sayin.... this is a much different response than "It will just transfer over like nothing happened."
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Just sayin.... this is a much different response than "It will just transfer over like nothing happened."
again ... it all depends on what software you use


some of them won't work at all, some of them it's easy,peasy autopilot
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Old 09-19-2014, 10:26 PM   #14
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Can I just put my Games on the SSD and not the OS? I dont really care that much from the time I hit the button I'm on my desktop within 30 seconds.
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