oscar nominations

[BigMeatballDave]

Just finished Silver Linings Playbook. Very good movie.

Jennifer Lawrence is awesome.

[DaveNull]

I thought lincoln was great, but am hoping it goes to Argo.

Anything but Le Mis.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DaveNull

I thought lincoln was great, but am hoping it goes to Argo.

Anything but Le Mis.

It drives me crazy that Les Mis is even in the conversation. They made the specific choice to cast actors/actresses with star appeal over, in some cases, picking the one who could perform the role best. Sorry, but if you're going to make a remake, that shit can't go unnoticed. Can understand if they nominate performances in the movie. But it's a joke for that to be in the running for best picture.

[Red Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

It drives me crazy that Les Mis is even in the conversation. They made the specific choice to cast actors/actresses with star appeal over, in some cases, picking the one who could perform the role best. Sorry, but if you're going to make a remake, that shit can't go unnoticed. Can understand if they nominate performances in the movie. But it's a joke for that to be in the running for best picture.

Well, it isn't really a remake. It's the first time the musical has been adapted into a film.

But I don't understand your argument. It's a joke to be in the running because it's adapted and because there are big stars in it?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

Well, it isn't really a remake. It's the first time the musical has been adapted into a film.

But I don't understand your argument. It's a joke to be in the running because it's adapted and because there are big stars in it?

There are actors in there that were cast for star appeal versus "can they sing well." Russell Crowe is an obvious example.

And my point about it being a remake is that this is a movie that is based on a brilliant book. It has been adapted umpteen times and run on Broadway. If you're going to get nominated for it, it damn well better be ****ing brilliant. Other Oscar nominees and nominee wannabes are relying on highly original scripts.

So yes, it's a joke for this to be nominated. Best performances, yes.

[Red Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

There are actors in there that were cast for star appeal versus "can they sing well." Russell Crowe is an obvious example.

And my point about it being a remake is that this is a movie that is based on a brilliant book. It has been adapted umpteen times and run on Broadway. If you're going to get nominated for it, it damn well better be ****ing brilliant. Other Oscar nominees and nominee wannabes are relying on highly original scripts.

So yes, it's a joke for this to be nominated. Best performances, yes.

I agree about some of the casting choices. Most obviously, Crowe, but also Jackman. HBC and SBC also leave a lot to be desired. But I think the rest of the cast nails it. And I'm pulling for Anne to win her category.

I don't really agree about the adaptation element. If you don't think the movie is worthy, that's fine. But that particular aspect of your argument strikes me as a bit strange. Who care if it's adapted, and who cares if it ran on Broadway? This thing is it's own animal, and should be judged on it's own merits (or lack thereof). Which, I admit, may be easier said than done for those who are familiar with the stage version.

I happen to think it deserves to be recognized, but I don't think it deserves a win. I've only seen four of the nominated films, but I think the other three I've seen are much better films.

[Red Brooklyn]

I wouldn't cry if Argo won. I certainly think it's better than Les Mis (and I really liked Les Mis). But I'm routing for Beasts Of The Southern Wild.

One thing that hurts Argo's chances is the lack of a Best Director nom for Affleck.

[KurtCobain]

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

I wouldn't cry if Argo won. I certainly think it's better than Les Mis (and I really liked Les Mis). But I'm routing for Beasts Of The Southern Wild.

One thing that hurts Argo's chances is the lack of a Best Director nom for Affleck.

Huge snub there.

[Red Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by Argo

Huge snub there.

Agreed. The direction is probably the film's biggest strength. Affleck is a real talent behind the lens.

[chiefzilla1501]

One of the problems I've always had with the Oscars is that there doesn't seem to be enough appreciation for a good comedy script. Thought Safety Not Guaranteed was one of the cleverest scripts this year. I'm shocked it didn't get nominated at all.

[Red Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

One of the problems I've always had with the Oscars is that there doesn't seem to be enough appreciation for a good comedy script. Thought Safety Not Guaranteed was one of the cleverest scripts this year. I'm shocked it didn't get nominated at all.

I really wanted to see that.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

One of the problems I've always had with the Oscars is that there doesn't seem to be enough appreciation for a good comedy script. Thought Safety Not Guaranteed was one of the cleverest scripts this year. I'm shocked it didn't get nominated at all.

Yea, comedy has always been criminally overlooked. As has pretty much all genre stuff like horror, sci-if, or action movies in general. I think there's a perception those types of movies are not important enough or are not actors showcases. Every now and then something can transcend its genre like Silence of the Lambs, Lord of the Rings, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Dark Knight, etc...

But comedy is hard to break though......ironically, wasn't last years best pic winner the Artist considered a silent comedy?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Yea, comedy has always been criminally overlooked. As has pretty much all genre stuff like horror, sci-if, or action movies in general. I think there's a perception those types of movies are not important enough or are not actors showcases. Every now and then something can transcend its genre like Silence of the Lambs, Lord of the Rings, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Dark Knight, etc...

But comedy is hard to break though......ironically, wasn't last years best pic winner the Artist considered a silent comedy?

Yup. Really good point. The Academy has a weird love for highly dramatic movies and history movies. Even when we're talking about Best Screenplay, you don't see scripts like 50/50 or Knocked Up in the conversation. Shame, because good, natural dialogue and character development is hard to do.

[Reaper16]

I saw Les Mis last night, finally. I thought it was ****ing terrible in almost every capacity. I'm a huge fan of the musical, so take that for what its worth.

[Red Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

I saw Les Mis last night, finally. I thought it was ****ing terrible in almost every capacity. I'm a huge fan of the musical, so take that for what its worth.

This film was my first exposure to the musical. I'd never heard the music. Never seen it staged. Never read the book it's based on. Nothing. I knew absolutely zero about the thing.

Probably helped me enjoy it more. And while I think the thing has some major strengths, I would be lying if I said I wasn't slightly disappointed. My expectations were high. I was expecting a home run. I got a crucial stand-up double that allowed a runner to score.