Bush wants #1 money

Mr. Laz · 07-20-2006, 05:30 PM

July 20, 2006

Bush could be late for Saints camp

Agent says unsigned Heisman Trophy winner needs to be treated like No. 1 pick

By Michael Wallace

How soon New Orleans Saints top draft pick Reggie Bush reports to Jackson for training camp may depend on how quickly team officials follow through on a draft night pledge, a Bush representative said.

Mike Ornstein, Bush's marketing agent, said Wednesday that Saints owner Tom Benson and general manager Mickey Loomis told Bush that he would be treated during contract negotiations as if he were the first overall pick in the April NFL draft.

The Saints used the No. 2 pick on Bush, the Heisman Trophy winning running back out of Southern Cal, after Houston surprisingly chose defensive end Mario Williams with the top pick.

Ornstein told The Clarion-Ledger on Wednesday that it's likely Bush and the Saints won't reach a deal on a contract before training camp opens July 28 at Millsaps College.

"Do we feel like he'll be there at the start?" Ornstein said in a telephone interview from his California office. "I'm not sure where we are right now. I'd say probably not, at this stage. ... We're not trying to be the bad guys. We want the Saints to live up to what they told Reggie at the draft."

Apparently at issue is whether the Saints will offer Bush, who was widely rated the top player in the draft, a more lucrative deal than Houston gave Williams.

Williams a former North Carolina State pass rusher, has reportedly agreed to a six-year contract with Texas worth $54 million, with $26.5 million in guaranteed pay.

Saints general manager Mickey Loomis, through a team spokesman, declined an interview request Wednesday.

Bush said during the Saints' rookie mini-camp in May that he instructed his team of agents to do "whatever it takes" to make sure a deal was reached that would allow him to report to camp on time.

Ornstein is one of at least two representatives that handle Bush's professional matters. Ornstein said he primarily negotiates the player's endorsement deals. Joel Segal, who will negotiate Bush's NFL contract, said he will not comment on where discussions stood with the Saints.

"I don't want to get caught up in holdouts and things like that," Bush said in May after his first offseason workout with the team. "I think it's important to start off on a good foot and a good note ... not only with the team, but with the city."

The Saints have signed three of their eight 2006 draft picks in the past 10 days. But the team's top four picks remain unsigned a week before players report, which is not uncommon among NFL teams. Many deals, especially ones involving higher-round picks, get done weeks into training camp.

Ornstein's comments Wednesday came a day after the agent for quarterback Vince Young, chosen No. 3 overall by Tennessee, said he was heading to Nashville to get a deal done in time for Young to open camp with the Titans next week.

Ornstein said Bush is in Los Angeles, where he shot a commercial for Pepsi on Tuesday and has been working out at USC's campus.

Bush has already signed endorsement deals with Adidas, Subway restaurants and Hummer.

And he has already established deep ties to New Orleans, where he has purchased a downtown condo and has donated thousands of dollars to local charities through his endorsement companies.

Segal, who also represents Michael Vick, has made high-end deals since 1999, when he landed ex-Packers star Antonio Freeman what was then the biggest signing bonus ever paid to an NFL receiver.

"We're confident the Saints will live up to what they stated at the beginning, that Reggie would be treated like the top pick," Ornstein said. "He's been at every camp, at every workout, out in the community. The Saints sold 15,000 season tickets the week after he was drafted. His impact has been huge."

**chefsos** · 07-20-2006, 05:49 PM

MEMO

From: Mr. Segal
To: Mr. Ornstein
Re: Impending Reggie Bush/New Orleans Saints contract negotiations

Shut up.

**Rain Man** · 07-20-2006, 05:50 PM

Question: How are Rain Man and Reggie Bush similar?

Answer: We both want #1 money, but neither of us were #1 picks.

**TinyEvel** · 07-20-2006, 06:15 PM

Agents and managers. Yeah. Awesome.

I think everybody should leverage themselves while they're hot, but....he'll get it.

I think the Saints are trying to keep some money for Ty Law.

**TinyEvel** · 07-20-2006, 06:16 PM

If I were a good illustrator, I'd cartoon a pic of Bush with his finger in a hole in the Levy. (you know, like the boy and the dike.)

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 07-20-2006, 06:41 PM

He deserves #1 money too. At least as much as any of these guys "deserve" this kind of money for playing a game. It's not his fault the Texans are idiots. Can anyone say Tony Mandrich?

Mr. Laz · 07-20-2006, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

He deserves #1 money too. At least as much as any of these guys "deserve" this kind of money for playing a game. It's not his fault the Texans are idiots. Can anyone say Tony Mandrich?

he wasn't the 1st pick so he doesn't deserve it.

the money isn't based on taletn because nobody really knows who is the best player ..... it's based on what pick you were and whether you are a QB or not.

the best player in the draft is rarely the 1st pick ...... talent has nothing to do with it.

SoCalBronco · 07-20-2006, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

he wasn't the 1st pick so he doesn't deserve it.

.

That's absurd.

He deserves it if he can get it. What will determine if he deserves it is if he ends up having the leverage to force it out of them. And that is what he SHOULD DO, anyway.

Good for Reggie. That is a joke of a franchise. If he is going to have to put up with playing for that "team", he should be compensated as highly as possible.

He should force it out of them. Good for him.

Spicy McHaggis · 07-20-2006, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Good for Reggie. That is a joke of a franchise. If he is going to have to put up with playing for that "team", he should be compensated as highly as possible.

He should force it out of them. Good for him.

Spoken like a true Elway fan.

Mr. Laz · 07-20-2006, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

That's absurd.

He deserves it if he can get it. .

and spraying offensive lineman's jerseys with Pam is ok as long as you don't get
caught, donkboy.

**Rain Man** · 07-20-2006, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

He deserves #1 money too. At least as much as any of these guys "deserve" this kind of money for playing a game. It's not his fault the Texans are idiots. Can anyone say Tony Mandrich?

So you're saying that Mandarich deserves #1 money?

**Bowser** · 07-20-2006, 10:43 PM

He hasn't done shit in the pros, yet wants to be paid like he's one of the top five backs in the league?

I would enjoy telling him and his agent to go eat a dick.

Mecca · 07-20-2006, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser

He hasn't done shit in the pros, yet wants to be paid like he's one of the top five backs in the league?

I would enjoy telling him and his agent to go eat a dick.

That tends to happen when you are a top 2 pick.........I'd hope you were never a GM for a team with a high draft pick.

ChiefFan31 · 07-20-2006, 06:44 PM

Not surprising at all. He will probably get close to it.

Just what tightwad Tom Benson didnt want...

But if he passed on Bush, they would have strung him up in NO

Garcia Bronco · 07-20-2006, 07:19 PM

...people are going to learn the hard way that Bush is not a top 5 pick....he just doesn't touch the ball enough on offense...I could understand if he had Vick speed and a Young arm...but he doesn't...he's a situational back and a receiver. He's not worht 60 mill over 5 years

07-20-2006, 05:30 PM	Topic Starter
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Bush wants #1 money July 20, 2006 Bush could be late for Saints camp Agent says unsigned Heisman Trophy winner needs to be treated like No. 1 pick By Michael Wallace How soon New Orleans Saints top draft pick Reggie Bush reports to Jackson for training camp may depend on how quickly team officials follow through on a draft night pledge, a Bush representative said. Mike Ornstein, Bush's marketing agent, said Wednesday that Saints owner Tom Benson and general manager Mickey Loomis told Bush that he would be treated during contract negotiations as if he were the first overall pick in the April NFL draft. The Saints used the No. 2 pick on Bush, the Heisman Trophy winning running back out of Southern Cal, after Houston surprisingly chose defensive end Mario Williams with the top pick. Ornstein told The Clarion-Ledger on Wednesday that it's likely Bush and the Saints won't reach a deal on a contract before training camp opens July 28 at Millsaps College. "Do we feel like he'll be there at the start?" Ornstein said in a telephone interview from his California office. "I'm not sure where we are right now. I'd say probably not, at this stage. ... We're not trying to be the bad guys. We want the Saints to live up to what they told Reggie at the draft." Apparently at issue is whether the Saints will offer Bush, who was widely rated the top player in the draft, a more lucrative deal than Houston gave Williams. Williams a former North Carolina State pass rusher, has reportedly agreed to a six-year contract with Texas worth $54 million, with $26.5 million in guaranteed pay. Saints general manager Mickey Loomis, through a team spokesman, declined an interview request Wednesday. Bush said during the Saints' rookie mini-camp in May that he instructed his team of agents to do "whatever it takes" to make sure a deal was reached that would allow him to report to camp on time. Ornstein is one of at least two representatives that handle Bush's professional matters. Ornstein said he primarily negotiates the player's endorsement deals. Joel Segal, who will negotiate Bush's NFL contract, said he will not comment on where discussions stood with the Saints. "I don't want to get caught up in holdouts and things like that," Bush said in May after his first offseason workout with the team. "I think it's important to start off on a good foot and a good note ... not only with the team, but with the city." The Saints have signed three of their eight 2006 draft picks in the past 10 days. But the team's top four picks remain unsigned a week before players report, which is not uncommon among NFL teams. Many deals, especially ones involving higher-round picks, get done weeks into training camp. Ornstein's comments Wednesday came a day after the agent for quarterback Vince Young, chosen No. 3 overall by Tennessee, said he was heading to Nashville to get a deal done in time for Young to open camp with the Titans next week. Ornstein said Bush is in Los Angeles, where he shot a commercial for Pepsi on Tuesday and has been working out at USC's campus. Bush has already signed endorsement deals with Adidas, Subway restaurants and Hummer. And he has already established deep ties to New Orleans, where he has purchased a downtown condo and has donated thousands of dollars to local charities through his endorsement companies. Segal, who also represents Michael Vick, has made high-end deals since 1999, when he landed ex-Packers star Antonio Freeman what was then the biggest signing bonus ever paid to an NFL receiver. "We're confident the Saints will live up to what they stated at the beginning, that Reggie would be treated like the top pick," Ornstein said. "He's been at every camp, at every workout, out in the community. The Saints sold 15,000 season tickets the week after he was drafted. His impact has been huge."
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07-20-2006, 05:49 PM	#2
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TinyEvel Just a li'l Evel Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bald. Goatee. Jorts. Casino cash: $5287131	Agents and managers. Yeah. Awesome. I think everybody should leverage themselves while they're hot, but....he'll get it. I think the Saints are trying to keep some money for Ty Law.
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TinyEvel Just a li'l Evel Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bald. Goatee. Jorts. Casino cash: $5287131	If I were a good illustrator, I'd cartoon a pic of Bush with his finger in a hole in the Levy. (you know, like the boy and the dike.)
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Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3241616	He hasn't done shit in the pros, yet wants to be paid like he's one of the top five backs in the league? I would enjoy telling him and his agent to go eat a dick.
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ChiefFan31 Keeping a close eye Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $10004900	Not surprising at all. He will probably get close to it. Just what tightwad Tom Benson didnt want... But if he passed on Bush, they would have strung him up in NO
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Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $5083136	...people are going to learn the hard way that Bush is not a top 5 pick....he just doesn't touch the ball enough on offense...I could understand if he had Vick speed and a Young arm...but he doesn't...he's a situational back and a receiver. He's not worht 60 mill over 5 years
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