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Personal Bragging: My 50th Half-Marathon

Last Saturday's race (in 42 degree temps in the rain, I might add) was my 50th half-marathon since I started my hobby in June of 2009.

My vital statistics are:

Completed races in 12 states so far (AK, HI, CA, NV, UT, WY, CO, TX, LA, FL, OH, and WI)

Median pace = 10:15 per mile
Median pace in flat, sea level races =9:37 per mile
Fastest pace = 9:04 per mile (Beaumont, TX - flat and sea level)
Slowest pace = 29:36 per mile (Pike's Peak Ascent - 7,800 foot climb from 6,300 ft to 14,100 ft and I was not good at it.)

14 have been at elevations between sea level and 3,000 feet (Median pace = 9:52)
21 have been at elevations of 3,000 to 6,000 feet (Median pace = 10:06)
9 have been at elevations of 6,000 to 9,000 feet (Median pace = 11:08)
9 have been at elevations of 9,000 feet or higher (Median pace = 15:29)

26 have been more or less flat with total hills < 300 ft (Median pace = 9:50). Three were net downhill.
12 have had moderate hills with total hills of 301-1,000 ft (Median pace = 10:43)
6 have had strong hills with total hills of 1,001-2,500 ft (Median pace = 12:10)
9 have had major hills with total hills of 2,500 ft or more (Median pace = 15:29)

The 9 with major hills are the same 9 that were over 9,000 feet in elevation.

3 races were run in the rain and 1 in snow.

I've only fallen once, and it wasn't in the rain or snow. (Tripped on a trail rock.)

24 were primarily on pavement or asphalt
6 were primarily on dirt roads
20 were primarily on trails

I've gone the wrong way on trails 4 times but only twice did it for more than 30 seconds. The worst mistake added 3/4 of a mile.

I've also had 2 10-mile races and a 10K in there, so that's 53 races in 54 months.

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Old 10-08-2014, 09:59 AM   #136
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Ugh. I've got this race coming up on Sunday, but have been having knee problems. I've been running 4 to 8 miles before I have problems over the last month and don't want to have problems early and end up hurting myself worse, but I really want to run it. However, I took last week off and it's been feeling really good.

I'm trying to figure out if I can take the risk and gut it out or if I just need to rest it for a month.

http://www.marathonmajic.com/EventIn...eMountain.html

http://www.marathonmajic.com/HalfMarathon-Elevation.pdf
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Old 10-08-2014, 10:12 AM   #137
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Ugh. I've got this race coming up on Sunday, but have been having knee problems. I've been running 4 to 8 miles before I have problems over the last month and don't want to have problems early and end up hurting myself worse, but I really want to run it. However, I took last week off and it's been feeling really good.

I'm trying to figure out if I can take the risk and gut it out or if I just need to rest it for a month.

http://www.marathonmajic.com/EventIn...eMountain.html

http://www.marathonmajic.com/HalfMarathon-Elevation.pdf
Do you have anything coming up soon afterwards? If not...DO IT!
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Old 10-08-2014, 10:20 AM   #138
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This Sunday I am doing my first 50K, its a trail race at Trail Of Tears State Park in Jackson Mo.

Kind of intimidating but I have done 3 full marathons and its only another 5 miles but its on narrow trail and pretty hilly. Hope to do it in about 5.5 hrs.

My marathon PR is 3:30:02 so that kind of gives you an idea of the difference in trail and road running.
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Old 10-08-2014, 10:22 AM   #139
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Ugh. I've got this race coming up on Sunday, but have been having knee problems. I've been running 4 to 8 miles before I have problems over the last month and don't want to have problems early and end up hurting myself worse, but I really want to run it. However, I took last week off and it's been feeling really good.

I'm trying to figure out if I can take the risk and gut it out or if I just need to rest it for a month.

http://www.marathonmajic.com/EventIn...eMountain.html

http://www.marathonmajic.com/HalfMarathon-Elevation.pdf
Thats looks like fun! All that downhill will probably be as tough as the uphill by the time you are done.
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Old 10-08-2014, 10:50 AM   #140
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Do you have anything coming up soon afterwards? If not...DO IT!

That's my worry. I've got a race in Montreal coming up on November 3rd, and I really want that t-shirt. Plus, all of the hills in this week's race are risky since it's downhills that are my big problem for my knee.

I really want to run it because I like the trail races, and my knee is feeling good right now, but I don't want to screw up both this race and the Montreal one.
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Thats looks like fun! All that downhill will probably be as tough as the uphill by the time you are done.
Yeah, I love one mile of downhill, but 4 straight miles of downhill isn't that productive. I just like hills in general, though.
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This Sunday I am doing my first 50K, its a trail race at Trail Of Tears State Park in Jackson Mo.

Kind of intimidating but I have done 3 full marathons and its only another 5 miles but its on narrow trail and pretty hilly. Hope to do it in about 5.5 hrs.

My marathon PR is 3:30:02 so that kind of gives you an idea of the difference in trail and road running.
Good luck. Trails will be slower, but I bet you'll recover quicker.
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That's my worry. I've got a race in Montreal coming up on November 3rd, and I really want that t-shirt. Plus, all of the hills in this week's race are risky since it's downhills that are my big problem for my knee.

I really want to run it because I like the trail races, and my knee is feeling good right now, but I don't want to screw up both this race and the Montreal one.
Yeah, that course isn't good for the knees. You could try it and then DNF if it starts hurting. I guess it depends on which race you want more. Of course, there's 3 weeks in between races which can be plenty of time to heal minor knee issues.
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I've got a race in Montreal coming up on November 3rd, and I really want that t-shirt.
Speaking of tech shirts, I was very happy with how the Blerch shirts turned out.
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I'm running Chicago this weekend. It'll be my first marathon. I've done the training but I'm actually pretty nervous. We'll see how it goes.
Well, I finished at 03:54:34. I didn't hit my goal of 03:45, but I was on pace for it until after mile 22.

My first mistake was timing my pre-race bathroom break wrong. I had to stop and use a porta-potty at mile 4 and that took a minute or so away from me. Thinking back, I should have left my corral, went to take a leak, and then just started with the next wave.

Then, at mile 22 I started having side cramps that I could not get rid of. My 25 was my worst. I had to stop several times to stretch and breathe because of the side cramp. But I was able to pick it back up and finish the last 1.2 almost at pace.

I want to do it again next year to get it right.
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Carnation is a beautiful, sleepy, little town. Still fairly close to the Seattle area as well. Great place. Couple of good eating spots in Duvall, I wish I'd known you were going.
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Well, I finished at 03:54:34. I didn't hit my goal of 03:45, but I was on pace for it until after mile 22.

My first mistake was timing my pre-race bathroom break wrong. I had to stop and use a porta-potty at mile 4 and that took a minute or so away from me. Thinking back, I should have left my corral, went to take a leak, and then just started with the next wave.

Then, at mile 22 I started having side cramps that I could not get rid of. My 25 was my worst. I had to stop several times to stretch and breathe because of the side cramp. But I was able to pick it back up and finish the last 1.2 almost at pace.

I want to do it again next year to get it right.

Congrats man, 3:54 is a great time!
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Well, I finished at 03:54:34. I didn't hit my goal of 03:45, but I was on pace for it until after mile 22.

My first mistake was timing my pre-race bathroom break wrong. I had to stop and use a porta-potty at mile 4 and that took a minute or so away from me. Thinking back, I should have left my corral, went to take a leak, and then just started with the next wave.

Then, at mile 22 I started having side cramps that I could not get rid of. My 25 was my worst. I had to stop several times to stretch and breathe because of the side cramp. But I was able to pick it back up and finish the last 1.2 almost at pace.

I want to do it again next year to get it right.
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Ugh. I've got this race coming up on Sunday, but have been having knee problems. I've been running 4 to 8 miles before I have problems over the last month and don't want to have problems early and end up hurting myself worse, but I really want to run it. However, I took last week off and it's been feeling really good.
How did your guys' races go?
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Thank you! It was definitely the hardest physical thing I've ever done.
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