Jeff Chadiha Interviewed on 810 this morning -Interesting bits about Cassel and OC

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Han Solo

Yeah, he can piggyback on the good players and ride until he crashes the bus into an AIDS tree and it explodes in a hail of fiery HIV.

Eat shit.

The Chiefs came into their own the second half of the year because of Justin Houston and ultimately Kyle Orton. Until those two ended up in the picture, the defense didn't have nearly enough talent and our QB (a critical position) brought our team down.

All of you hate Matt Cassel. All of you say the QB is critical. All of you would trade the entire Chiefs' draft, your first born, and the key too Zuul for a franchise QB. Yet nobody here, not a single person, can say that the Chiefs would have made the playoffs had they had a good QB all season long. Orton isn't even a great QB. He's good enough.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The Chiefs came into their own the second half of the year because of Justin Houston and ultimately Kyle Orton. Until those two ended up in the picture, the defense didn't have nearly enough talent and our QB (a critical position) brought our team down.

All of you hate Matt Cassel. All of you say the QB is critical. All of you would trade the entire Chiefs' draft, your first born, and the key too Zuul for a franchise QB. Yet nobody here, not a single person, can say that the Chiefs would have made the playoffs had they had a good QB all season long. Orton isn't even a great QB. He's good enough.

Huh? I will say that the kansas city chiefs would have absolutely made the playoffs with just a good qb all season long.

The real reason our d started looking so dominant is because orton cut down on the % of three and out drives.

But again that is moot if we come out strong and win in weeks one and two, even with palko starting four games.


Why won't you just say that one time?
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[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Huh? I will say that the kansas city chiefs would have absolutely made the playoffs with just a good qb all season long.

The real reason our d started looking so dominant is because orton cut down on the % of three and out drives.

But again that is moot if we come out strong and win in weeks one and two, even with palko starting four games.


Why won't you just say that one time?
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I've said multiple times that it was a huge mistake the first two games. Like I said, it's ridiculous to dwell on 2 games when the coach got more out of the next 14 games than many coaches would have gotten out of 16.

But the fact of the matter is that for the next umpteen games, the ONLY reason the Chiefs were competitive was because coaching turned an average roster into a decent one.

Without Jamaal Charles and Berry, this team had no business making the playoffs. They didn't have enough talent. And that's not because of coaching. And it starts with a HUGE whiff on the GM at the QB position.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I've said multiple times that it was a huge mistake the first two games. Like I said, it's ridiculous to dwell on 2 games when the coach got more out of the next 14 games than many coaches would have gotten out of 16.

But the fact of the matter is that for the next umpteen games, the ONLY reason the Chiefs were competitive was because coaching turned an average roster into a decent one.

Without Jamaal Charles and Berry, this team had no business making the playoffs. They didn't have enough talent. And that's not because of coaching. And it starts with a HUGE whiff on the GM at the QB position.

Lol.
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[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Lol.
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Ok.

Let's fire every coach that has 2 bad games in 3 years.

The Giants should have fired Tom Coughlin multiple teams. He lost his team worse than Haley several times over his career.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Ok.

Let's fire every coach that has 2 bad games in 3 years.

The Giants should have fired Tom Coughlin multiple teams. He lost his team worse than Haley several times over his career.

I'm laughing because you didn't think this team was talented enough to make the playoffs without charles, berry.

Tell me, what spectacular plays did we run that made haley this genious?
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[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I'm laughing because you didn't think this team was talented enough to make the playoffs without charles, berry.

Tell me, what spectacular plays did we run that made haley this genious?
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I'm laughing because you think there are genius plays to run behind Matt Cassel and Thomas Jones.

That was arguably one of the worst QB-RB tandems in the NFL.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Ok.

Let's fire every coach that has 2 bad games in 3 years.

The Giants should have fired Tom Coughlin multiple teams. He lost his team worse than Haley several times over his career.

2 in 3 years? Dude, for the ump- mother ****ing -teenth time...Haley got blown out 9 times in 2 1/2 years. That's 7 more than the 2 you keep talking about.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by petegz28

2 in 3 years? Dude, for the ump- mother ****ing -teenth time...Haley got blown out 9 times in 2 1/2 years. That's 7 more than the 2 you keep talking about.

You are talking about firing a coach because of 2 games that were clearly due to poor coaching. You dont' factor in that maybe much of the 2012 blowouts were due to the fact that we didn't have nearly enough talent, regardless of the coach.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I've said multiple times that it was a huge mistake the first two games. Like I said, it's ridiculous to dwell on 2 games when the coach got more out of the next 14 games than many coaches would have gotten out of 16.

But the fact of the matter is that for the next umpteen games, the ONLY reason the Chiefs were competitive was because coaching turned an average roster into a decent one.

Without Jamaal Charles and Berry, this team had no business making the playoffs. They didn't have enough talent. And that's not because of coaching. And it starts with a HUGE whiff on the GM at the QB position.

A coach that got the most out of a team for the next 14 games??? Are you on the crystal? Are you suckin' back grandpa's cough medicine? Haley was only here for the next 11 games for one. Secondly he managed tot lose back-back games at home when we had a chance to take 1st place to ourselves and then won a miracle Monday night game. Proceeded to get ass blasted by NE, pulled out a hail mary against Chicago, refused to bench Palko during the Steelers game after throwing 3 pics, 2 back-back and then threw a temper tantrum on the field and for the first time im my life got a penalaty called on a Chiefs coach for unsportsmanlike. Yea, he really got the most out of our team alright!

[Sofa King]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I've said multiple times that it was a huge mistake the first two games. Like I said, it's ridiculous to dwell on 2 games when the coach got more out of the next 14 games than many coaches would have gotten out of 16.

But the fact of the matter is that for the next umpteen games, the ONLY reason the Chiefs were competitive was because coaching turned an average roster into a decent one.

Without Jamaal Charles and Berry, this team had no business making the playoffs. They didn't have enough talent. And that's not because of coaching. And it starts with a HUGE whiff on the GM at the QB position.

wat

Average into decent? Aren't those the same thing?


Was chiefzilla shitfaced when he was responding in this thread? I can't tell what he was even trying to argue.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

wat

Average into decent? Aren't those the same thing?


Was chiefzilla shitfaced when he was responding in this thread? I can't tell what he was even trying to argue.

I was absolutely tanked last night. Haha.

My point was that we all said with a tough schedule this team was lucky to go 7-9. We went 7-9. And that's considering that we lost our rb who was our entire offense. Lost our qb and got stuck with a 5th stringer for a few games. Our starting roster had huge talent gaps and we still did OK.

People blame the coach. I blame the Gm for giving Haley shitty guys to work with. Even worse if gretz's story is true that pioli intentionally didn't spend in free agency so he can find an excuse to fire Haley.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The Chiefs came into their own the second half of the year because of Justin Houston and ultimately Kyle Orton. Until those two ended up in the picture, the defense didn't have nearly enough talent and our QB (a critical position) brought our team down.

All of you hate Matt Cassel. All of you say the QB is critical. All of you would trade the entire Chiefs' draft, your first born, and the key too Zuul for a franchise QB. Yet nobody here, not a single person, can say that the Chiefs would have made the playoffs had they had a good QB all season long. Orton isn't even a great QB. He's good enough.

I can say Peyton Manning took a team that was 2-14 without him to 10-6 and the playoffs. In fact, get a load of this:

Since being taken with the No. 1 overall pick in 1998, Manning has led the Colts to 11 playoff appearances, 11 double-digit winning seasons, eight division crowns, two AFC titles and a Super Bowl championship.

What team has had this level of success consistently without a franchise QB? Maybe the Ravens?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The Chiefs came into their own the second half of the year because of Justin Houston and ultimately Kyle Orton. Until those two ended up in the picture, the defense didn't have nearly enough talent and our QB (a critical position) brought our team down.

All of you hate Matt Cassel. All of you say the QB is critical. All of you would trade the entire Chiefs' draft, your first born, and the key too Zuul for a franchise QB. Yet nobody here, not a single person, can say that the Chiefs would have made the playoffs had they had a good QB all season long. Orton isn't even a great QB. He's good enough.

We would have easily made the playoffs had we had a average QB such as Orton this year. I can think of 3 games we probably win that we lost....SD #1, Denver #1 and Pittsburgh.


I don't get what your argument is? One time you are saying Cassel is good enough and the other you are saying he isn't. WTF is it?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The Chiefs came into their own the second half of the year because of Justin Houston and ultimately Kyle Orton. Until those two ended up in the picture, the defense didn't have nearly enough talent and our QB (a critical position) brought our team down.

All of you hate Matt Cassel. All of you say the QB is critical. All of you would trade the entire Chiefs' draft, your first born, and the key too Zuul for a franchise QB. Yet nobody here, not a single person, can say that the Chiefs would have made the playoffs had they had a good QB all season long. Orton isn't even a great QB. He's good enough.

Yeah, Orton was nails, putting up a shit ton of points and all.