The Evolution of the Planet

[BIG_DADDY]

I think to understand the nature of the problem that exists here today it is important to reflect on how we arrived here. For those that don’t know, ChiefsPlanet was created to get around the vast restrictions placed on posters in KC Star. It was a huge success right off the bat and we were rolling. IMO those first months we ended up with a lot of really great posters and only a couple bad ones. As time went on CP has attracted more and more people who love not having restrictions and unlimited subjects to discuss which was great other than the fact that that many thought those threads were polluting the forum with people arguing all the time over subjects that didn’t even involve football. I posted a poll asking the membership if they wanted another forum for off topics and it passed by a landslide and the people who run this BB were gracious enough to create it and DC was born.

That has worked for a long time now with this almost no holds barred format. Once again this type of forum has been attractive to people who love the open debate that can take place here but unfortunately over many years it has attracted more and more trolls who like using the structure here to do nothing more than try to get under posters skin and will do anything in order to do that. It’s also allowed posters like frazod to thrive here being the poster child of bad psychology. Talk about no boundaries with a strong desire to bust in others and dump. This has attracted more in the like, can anyone say KCN? The trolls have grown as well in this forum in a kind of perfect storm way. What we have today is a forum saturated with trolls and posters with the psychology of a 13 year old psychopathic girl on her first period. IMO this is costing us many potential good posters who would make this a better place to come to and has also seen us lose many quality long term posters. To complicate matters the moderators that reside here are fine with posters posting anything they want about you and your family members short of a racist remark heaven forbid just as long as you don’t do it to them which is now creating two different cultures that exist within the planet. If they think that it is hostile now they haven’t seen anything yet should this persist.

IMO at this point nothing short of a cleansing designed to rid the planet of trolls and bloody vaginas that have no control is exactly what this place needs to regain its former greatness. There was a time when I posted a thread about a family member and their battle with cancer and asked for prayers and support. Today there is no chance of me doing something like that here as I have no desire to see somebody post the nastiest thing they can think of at that point. For the old timers it should be easy to see the huge difference in where we were and where we are now. My 2 cents.

[Buck]

God this is such a long thread, but I wanted to say I've had heated arguments with people here but I know I'm arguing with my online persona vs their online persona.

Lately I've just tried to be nice to everyone because it feels good to be treated nicely back. If I disagree with someone's opinion, I voice it, but I don't call them names. I used to, not anymore.

It's healthy to be pleasant with other people.

Also I want to say in sorry to Zach because I believed someone else over him and said shitty things a while ago. I don't hate you and I do respect your opinion and I love your passion for sports.

I also appreciate everyone's passion for sports here, even if I don't agree with your viewpoints.

As far as trolls, welcome to the internet.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Suggesting that someone doesn't have a right to their opinion because they're not employed by an NFL team isn't insulting to you?

I don't believe people really suggested that. What they may have suggested is that you don't have the same level of expertise nor the full scope of information that the football pros do so they were inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to the pros rather than embracing your opinion. That's not insulting to me.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

How much of the change here has to do with the state of the team I wonder. If you think about it, although the board did start in 2001, it's basically a hold-over from the 90s and the so-called "success" of that time. Remember back when packfan used to joke about how we hadn't won a playoff game in x years. Well, flash forward to today, and this franchise has been a loser for nigh on 15 years. And as we all know it's been two decades since a playoff win. This has been a historically bad run of teams, even during the "highlight" Vermeil years. So how much of a psychological hit have we taken collectively?

there are mitigating factors, the playoff drought and carousel coaches and qbs..social media, culture, etc...

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Buck

I know I'm arguing with my online persona vs their online persona.

Yeah. There's a lot of that.

That's one of the impacts that meeting people had on me: you realize that we all (including me) have a tendency to play a role online, rather than to be genuine. The more people I met, the more I tended to try to be myself on here, rather than fill a caricature.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

How much of the change here has to do with the state of the team I wonder. If you think about it, although the board did start in 2001, it's basically a hold-over from the 90s and the so-called "success" of that time. Remember back when packfan used to joke about how we hadn't won a playoff game in x years. Well, flash forward to today, and this franchise has been a loser for nigh on 15 years. And as we all know it's been two decades since a playoff win. This has been a historically bad run of teams, even during the "highlight" Vermeil years. So how much of a psychological hit have we taken collectively?

That will all be over soon.

We'll win our first playoff game in forever and come the end of February I'll go to Lacuna Inc...

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

This is why it's impossible to have a discussion with you.

Instead of answering the question, you dodge it an spit out some passive-aggressive bullshit.

Please. Answer the question.

If Sanchez was as bad as you and others made him out to be in 2009-2010, how did the Jets get to the AFCCG twice?

Is this what you mean by debating the person instead of the post?

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Says the guy who wanted Aaron Curry because his intense eyes in a YouTube clip.

[booger]

Originally Posted by Katipan

You think you could look Rain Man in the face if you knew what his dick looked like?

damnit woman! for all of me years rain man has been the funny man. And he does it without cussing and it's still hilarious. He's a kind and pure jolly good fellow.

And you ruined it by giving him a dirty penis

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by booger

And you ruined it by giving him a dirty penis

She didn't do that.

You just did...

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by go bowe

i'm pretty much a dc poster almost all the time...

the occasional drama thread like this one in the lounge also draws my interest...

i must be a bad person...

I can't imagine he was saying that the board would be better off if we could only drive go bowe away.

[booger]

Originally Posted by NewChief

This is a pretty fair post. We only have ourselves to blame, though. We glorified the people who could "blast" others. It was cool on here to be a bulletin board verbal badass who could lay into others, and it is a skill that some people are good at. Posting good rants is an art form.

The problem is that way too many people think they're good at it (when they aren't) and believe it's the way to be perceived as "cool" on here by your "friends."

They should realize that the way to appear "cool" on here is to claim that you're the relative of a player on the Chiefs.

punters don't count!

[booger]

Originally Posted by Rausch

She didn't do that.

You just did...

the hell I did. He was always a non fictional stick figure and she drew a pecker on him

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by jettio

I think people had higher standards in what they posted because if they were too disrespectful to the community and other posters, the next posts in the thread told the poster to wise up.

Now if someone gets unnecessarily disrespectful, the person disrespected has to defend himself and everybody else watches the accident unfold.

Let's not get too revisionist. What you're talking about happened if someone was disrespectful to a popular member. If a popular member was disrespectful to someone else though, several others would join in and we'd have a good old fashioned e-wilding incident.

[lcarus]

This has probably already been said, but with the freedoms that this place has, there will be a lot of hard-to-tolerate bullshit that comes with it. It's those freedoms though that makes this board attractive to me. I haven't seen another board with NEAR the freedoms of speech this one has. It allows for some hilarious posts, and some really mean/stupid/pointless/immature ones.

But my favorite thing about this place is how laid back it is when it comes to language and the "anything goes" attitude that we basically have.

Actually, my favorite thing about this place is how Rausch puts "...." after everything he says. Hurts my feelings every time, but I love it. Rausch, you one who sucks the penis you.

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Let's not get too revisionist. What you're talking about happened if someone was disrespectful to a popular member. If a popular member was disrespectful to someone else though, several others would join in and we'd have a good old fashioned e-wilding incident.

Exactly true. I've seen posts from the old era just as vitriolic as anything posted today. It was just that it tended to be directed at someone whom the majority felt was worthy of such vitriol.