The next 007 movie

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Frankie

And you go out of your way to wrap your disagreement with me in insults, only to agree with me. You are right, they didn't have to reinvent the wheel. But they did. Unfortunately. All they had to do was to start writing better scripts like they have for Craig.

To me, Pierce Brosnan could have been the quintessential Bond. A mixture of Connery, Lazenby and Moore, but the producers failed to provide him with great scripts.

He, if given the chance, would have been amazing in the reboot. I think Craig has done a great job but like you, feel his stature and blond hair throws off the decades long style and feel of the character. Even still, I love the movies he's done as Bond.

That said, I doubt we'd be having this conversation had Hugh Jackman not refused the role in 2005.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

To me, Pierce Brosnan could have been the quintessential Bond. A mixture of Connery, Lazenby and Moore, but the producers failed to provide him with great scripts.

He, if given the chance, would have been amazing in the reboot. I think Craig has done a great job but like you, feel his stature and blond hair throws off the decades long style and feel of the character. Even still, I love the movies he's done as Bond.

That said, I doubt we'd be having this conversation had Hugh Jackman not refused the role in 2005.

I actually like all the Brosnan movies except the last one. They sort of fell back to the over the top (Roger Moore) era stuff with that one. The 1st movie with Brosnan was sort of a reboot since Bond was a dead character there in the early 90s.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

To me, Pierce Brosnan could have been the quintessential Bond. A mixture of Connery, Lazenby and Moore, but the producers failed to provide him with great scripts.

He, if given the chance, would have been amazing in the reboot. I think Craig has done a great job but like you, feel his stature and blond hair throws off the decades long style and feel of the character. Even still, I love the movies he's done as Bond.

That said, I doubt we'd be having this conversation had Hugh Jackman not refused the role in 2005.

Jackman was my top choice when they were recasting Bond after the Brosnan era. But I understand he was rejected by Barbara Broccoli for being too "effeminate!!!" I think Babs had her site on Craig and nothing,... NOTHING was going to change that. This also explains why all the extra efforts are made for better quality of scripts and production. All is to sell Craig as Bond to a great section of the audience. They could have done the same for Jackman and everybody claiming Craig is the greatest Bond would have claimed the same for Jackman.

Brosnan had a lot going for him for the 007 except the commanding voice and delivery that Connery had. Craig is OK in that department. Too bad he just doesn't look like Bond.

[headsnap]

Originally Posted by Frankie

Jackman was my top choice when they were recasting Bond after the Brosnan era. But I understand he was rejected by Barbara Broccoli for being too "effeminate!!!" I think Babs had her site on Craig and nothing,... NOTHING was going to change that. This also explains why all the extra efforts are made for better quality of scripts and production. All is to sell Craig as Bond to a great section of the audience. They could have done the same for Jackman and everybody claiming Craig is the greatest Bond would have claimed the same for Jackman.

Brosnan had a lot going for him for the 007 except the commanding voice and delivery that Connery had. Craig is OK in that department. Too bad he just doesn't look like Bond.

wow, that post broke apart in mid air!!!

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

To me, Pierce Brosnan could have been the quintessential Bond. A mixture of Connery, Lazenby and Moore, but the producers failed to provide him with great scripts.

He, if given the chance, would have been amazing in the reboot. I think Craig has done a great job but like you, feel his stature and blond hair throws off the decades long style and feel of the character. Even still, I love the movies he's done as Bond.

That said, I doubt we'd be having this conversation had Hugh Jackman not refused the role in 2005.

Agreed about Brosnan. Connery remains the best Bond, but Brosnan should have been the best. He just got stuck with a lot of really terrible movies.

Lazenby's interesting. I think his short run has people overrating him a little and I used to do the same. Then I re-watched Secret Service and really thought he did a mediocre job. He was stiff, unpolished and just not as good as I remembered.

I think people like him more than they should because they just didn't get a chance to grow tired of him. And also, he played Bond in a single movie that was a little different from the rest and was quite good on its own. He gets credit for being Bond in a good movie, just as Dalton got nailed for being Bond in really bad movies (though Dalton just wasn't that good).

Craig's just a far different Bond than anyone that's come before him so its tough to put him in the hierarchy. For the most part, he's been James Bourne. I like his movies a lot and the gritty nastiness of them, but they're a world apart from the rest of the series. It's just tough to grade him with everyone else.

But back on track - yes, Pierce Brosnan is an underrated Bond and could've been the best Bond yet.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

...., just as Dalton got nailed for being Bond in really bad movies (though Dalton just wasn't that good).

I totally disagree with this.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Craig's just a far different Bond than anyone that's come before him so its tough to put him in the hierarchy. For the most part, he's been James Bourne. I like his movies a lot and the gritty nastiness of them, ....

I totally agree with this.

Look I could accept Craig as, say the new agent 009 David King. Do a whole series of 009 movies starring him, and I will watch them. But his looks, demeanor, and personality is NOT James Bond.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by Frankie

I totally disagree with this.


I totally agree with this.

Look I could accept Craig as, say the new agent 009 David King. Do a whole series of 009 movies starring him, and I will watch them. But his looks, demeanor, and personality is NOT James Bond.

Not yet but, that doesn't mean he won't become him (in demeanor and personality anyway). They have been building the character from the ground up, and each movie he seems to take another step to becoming the Bond we expect. Watching the development to see how he gets there is quite interesting I think.