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Old 05-25-2012, 12:19 PM   #1
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WTF?? You asked whether or not Quinn had talent around him like we did? I pointed out, we were starting players like Jones and Pope last year(when the comparable stats for Cassel occured), which should have given you a clue that Cassel wasn't work with much last year, thus answering your question.
You know you can't defend that prick. Stop trying. Geez.
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:20 PM   #2
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You know you can't defend that prick. Stop trying. Geez.
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:34 PM   #3
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You know you can't defend that prick. Stop trying. Geez.
Don't come in barking up this ****ing tree. You're not even a Chiefs fan. Consider it a an honor to discuss the topics at hand, but don't think your opinion holds much stock around here, when discussing our players.

I have never once defended Cassel, merely pointed out, FACTS, that hopefully, bring some insight to the discussion and keep the blinded from cornering the market on such witty insight as "Cassel sucks."

I prefer to actually discuss the issues, but so many use vauge and broad brushstrokes that bare little fruit and use the dog-pile mentality. I prefer to keep it real.

Cassel has player better than Quinn. Period. I know that doesn't fall in line with average Cassel sucks fan, but I really don't give a shit, because I'm interested in the facts, not somebody's opinion.

Do I think Cassel is great? No, far from it, but I'm also not so ****ing blind, that I'm going to ignore the actual numbers that support how they play on the field, when it counts.
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:39 PM   #4
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Don't come in barking up this ****ing tree. You're not even a Chiefs fan. Consider it a an honor to discuss the topics at hand, but don't think your opinion holds much stock around here, when discussing our players.

I have never once defended Cassel, merely pointed out, FACTS, that hopefully, bring some insight to the discussion and keep the blinded from cornering the market on such witty insight as "Cassel sucks."

I prefer to actually discuss the issues, but so many use vauge and broad brushstrokes that bare little fruit and use the dog-pile mentality. I prefer to keep it real.

Cassel has player better than Quinn. Period. I know that doesn't fall in line with average Cassel sucks fan, but I really don't give a shit, because I'm interested in the facts, not somebody's opinion.

Do I think Cassel is great? No, far from it, but I'm also not so ****ing blind, that I'm going to ignore the actual numbers that support how they play on the field, when it counts.
Put Quinn in the same situation as Cassel......and Quinn would have put up better numbers.
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:43 PM   #5
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Put Quinn in the same situation as Cassel......and Quinn would have put up better numbers.
this is exactly what i was saying.
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:51 PM   #6
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Put Quinn in the same situation as Cassel......and Quinn would have put up better numbers.
You're guessing. Perhaps they've moved the bar on what is considered a QBotF but a 52.1% 5.4 ypa and a 10/9 TD/INT ratio for a QB that hasn't thrown a single pass in the last 3 seasons indicate career backup to me. It was like calling Todd Collins a QBotF.
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:53 PM   #7
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You're guessing. Perhaps they've moved the bar on what is considered a QBotF but a 52.1% 5.4 ypa and a 10/9 TD/INT ratio for a QB that hasn't thrown a single pass in the last 3 seasons indicate career backup to me. It was like calling Todd Collins a QBotF.
Really?

Put Quinn as Tom Brady's backup.......spending the entire time learning from Belicheck, Weis and McDaniels......and then put him in as the starter with Moss and Welker......and he'd be worse than Cassel?

If you honestly think that.....you're ****ing stupid.
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Old 05-25-2012, 01:30 PM   #8
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You're guessing. Perhaps they've moved the bar on what is considered a QBotF but a 52.1% 5.4 ypa and a 10/9 TD/INT ratio for a QB that hasn't thrown a single pass in the last 3 seasons indicate career backup to me. It was like calling Todd Collins a QBotF.
You do realize that our starting QB threw a whopping 72 passes between high school and his fourth year as a pro QB don't you? That is his entire 4 year college career and his first three years as a pro.

Drew Bledsoe attempted 70 passes in one game.

I don't care if Quinn hasn't thrown a pass in three years--as long as it isn't Cassel, I don't care who is the QB.
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Old 05-25-2012, 06:00 PM   #9
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You do realize that our starting QB threw a whopping 72 passes between high school and his fourth year as a pro QB don't you? That is his entire 4 year college career and his first three years as a pro.

Drew Bledsoe attempted 70 passes in one game.

I don't care if Quinn hasn't thrown a pass in three years--as long as it isn't Cassel, I don't care who is the QB.
Building up Quinn isn't going to make him any better. The facts are he was Tebowesque in Cleveland with his passing ability. Despite the fact the Broncos brought Quinn in to compete with Orton, they felt the need to draft Tim Tebow. Orton was passed over to start by Tebow not just last year, but also in 2010 with Eric Studsville as interim coach.
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:45 PM   #10
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Don't come in barking up this ****ing tree. You're not even a Chiefs fan. Consider it a an honor to discuss the topics at hand, but don't think your opinion holds much stock around here, when discussing our players.

I have never once defended Cassel, merely pointed out, FACTS, that hopefully, bring some insight to the discussion and keep the blinded from cornering the market on such witty insight as "Cassel sucks."

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Cassel has player better than Quinn. Period. I know that doesn't fall in line with average Cassel sucks fan, but I really don't give a shit, because I'm interested in the facts, not somebody's opinion.

Do I think Cassel is great? No, far from it, but I'm also not so ****ing blind, that I'm going to ignore the actual numbers that support how they play on the field, when it counts.
We also have to take into account, the factors that potentially contributed to his numbers being padded a bit.
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