Chip Kelly is close to a deal to become the Browns coach

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Great hire for the Brownies. It's the pick you make when you gamble -- they chose not to play it safe, and it could pay some huge dividends for them. Worst case scenario, the experiment doesn't work and 3 years from now, you have a team that's fast and ready for the spread but needs a scheme adjustment.

What?

Worst case scenario is the experiment doesn't work, they've sold out to build for the spread, and have to completely gut the thing so that it resembles an NFL team again.

They're taking a HUGE risk.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

What?

Worst case scenario is the experiment doesn't work, they've sold out to build for the spread, and have to completely gut the thing so that it resembles an NFL team again.

They're taking a HUGE risk.

You're assuming he's going to sell out for a pure college spread. Pittsburgh is a good example of a team built around a more NFL-oriented spread, and they didn't have too much problem adapting to Haley's new offense.

Again... if he runs a stubbornly college-oriented spread, I think Cleveland is doomed. But I'm intrigued by Kelly because I'm very curious to see what scheme he runs, and very possibly it's something nobody was expecting.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You're assuming he's going to sell out for a pure college spread. Pittsburgh is a good example of a team built around a more NFL-oriented spread, and they didn't have too much problem adapting to Haley's new offense.

Again... if he runs a stubbornly college-oriented spread, I think Cleveland is doomed. But I'm intrigued by Kelly because I'm very curious to see what scheme he runs, and very possibly it's something nobody was expecting.

Well, IMO, if he's gonna start with running it by going with McCoy, that'd be strike 1 in my book.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well, IMO, if he's gonna start with running it by going with McCoy, that'd be strike 1 in my book.

Exactly.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You're assuming he's going to sell out for a pure college spread. Pittsburgh is a good example of a team built around a more NFL-oriented spread, and they didn't have too much problem adapting to Haley's new offense.

Again... if he runs a stubbornly college-oriented spread, I think Cleveland is doomed. But I'm intrigued by Kelly because I'm very curious to see what scheme he runs, and very possibly it's something nobody was expecting.

Bottom line is that they're essentially banking that:

1) hiring a college coach that runs a VERY unconventional offense is going to work even though pretty much every previous attempt has failed and

2) he can overcome #1 in Cleveland, where NOBODY has had much success.

I don't like the odds.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Bottom line is that they're essentially banking that:

1) hiring a college coach that runs a VERY unconventional offense is going to work even though pretty much every previous attempt has failed and

2) he can overcome #1 in Cleveland, where NOBODY has had much success.

I don't like the odds.

I'm banking on the idea that Kelly is a phenomenal coach (not the X's and O's, I'm talking about a pure coach). And that he's known to be a very bright mind and that his interviews suggest that he understands that college and NFL are two different games.

I think you're completely ruling out the possibility that he hires an innovative offensive coordinator with NFL experience. There's no guarantee that Kelly is going to run the same exact scheme as in Oregon. Just the feeling that he'll likely hire a coach familiar with a more spread design and that will have willingness to run up tempo.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

There's no guarantee that Kelly is going to run the same exact scheme as in Oregon.

If he's not going to run that scheme, what's the allure?

Makes no sense.

You're essentially saying "I really love this thoroughbred, he's so fast. But I really need a plow horse, so I'm gonna strap a yoke on him and hope for the best."

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

If he's not going to run that scheme, what's the allure?

Makes no sense.

Because he is a phenomenal coach of players. His up tempo approach can easily mix in well with a QB and OC who like to run no huddle. And he's incredibly bright -- it's not like he can't run an NFL offense with spread orientation.

AGain, when I"m picking coaches, it's for how he can put a team together, not as much the X's and O's. The risk is in how stubborn he will be on scheme. My opinion is that he can pick a more spread-oriented OC who understands the NFL game. If he does that, this will be a really interesting pick to watch. But again... if he insists on playcalling control and/or on a college OC, then yeah, the Browns are doomed. I actually think Kelly is way too smart to do something like that.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Because he is a phenomenal coach of players. His up tempo approach can easily mix in well with a QB and OC who like to run no huddle. And he's incredibly bright -- it's not like he can't run an NFL offense with spread orientation.

AGain, when I"m picking coaches, it's for how he can put a team together, not as much the X's and O's. The risk is in how stubborn he will be on scheme. My opinion is that he can pick a more spread-oriented OC who understands the NFL game. If he does that, this will be a really interesting pick to watch. But again... if he insists on playcalling control and/or on a college OC, then yeah, the Browns are doomed. I actually think Kelly is way too smart to do something like that.

Chip Kelly recruited uber-talented players, and there's a ton of smoke that he cheated to do it.

You've honestly completely lost me. What you've said above makes zero sense. Sounds like grasping at straws.